poor bird

[alexa1]

how cruel is this? he says 'it's only a bird'.

this

It is much easier if you just pluck the breast and slit the skin up the breastbone. The skin peels back really easily and you can cut the breasts out. I don't bother with the rest, like you say it's too fiddly.

cowmad.. muslims eat meat in a big way. I think it's buddists or hindus that don't. Muslims make a huge party at the end of ramadam where they slaughter a goat and eat it. Some muslim men I work with go to great lengths to get hold of this poor goat, bypassing slaughter house laws and rules etc re: hygiene.

They don't eat pork

Pork... that's right.

I'm so sad, I couldn't sleep last night thinking aboutthis.

It would take HOURS to pluck that bird and then cook it. No way it would it satisfy a famished "I must eat now" man. Unless he was going to eat it raw, and surely we all know raw meat carries parasites?? Whatever happened to being scared of bird flue, too?

Why couldn't he just go for a kebab?

I think he made a regular habit of taking these birds. Either he's just waffling to get off, very stupid or mentallly ill. Maybe all 3.

Halal meat just has to be slaughtered by an adult muslim (might have to be a man, but not have to be an imam, and don't think any prayer involved), cutting the animal's throat while it is conscious (some stunning may be allowed). Apparently most New Zealand lamb meat is Halal.

Oh yes, and no pork, think some seafood is out, too.

There's no kebab shop near this particular boating pond in Llandudno. I think the nearest chippy closes at 8pm too, although you can get crisps at the hotel bar just down the road.
I'm surprised he managed to kill one of those particular swans they're pretty fierce.....

oh yeah, that's the other thing, They can snap a finger off a person or break a child's arm.

Better off going for a wood pigeon, really.

Jokes aside. Have any of u got any compassion for that poor swan. I know some of u do but the majority of u think it's hilarious. Quite sad.

alexa, im with you on the compassion.i wont go into it any more or the nasties will start posting again

7 up and alexa

cant abide your earlier comments find them offensive

NaO - I was just reading this and thinking wtf ?

Rather surprised there hasn't been a lot more comment actually.

Hey, get over it, it's a bloody swan! There are kids suffering worse than this all over the country yet you lose sleep over a swan?

Yes it was cruel, but they think the guy who killed it is a depressive with mental health problems. And I don't see what his religion has to do with anything, most cruelty inflicted on animals is done by white British yobs.

ctually, no, I haven't got any compassion for a bird. No more compassion than I have for aany other bird. I think carnivores who are squeamish about where meat comes from are being hypocritical. I doubt that swan suffered any more than the average slaughtered turkey.

I don't think cpmpassion is transferable if you have no compassion for a bird you have no compassion imo.Sorry but it isn'y JUST a bird it is a life

It has been the case for hundreds of years that swans belong to the Queen. I dont know why, or whatever, but as such, its illegal to harm, kill, steal, eat, cook, whatever.. a swan.

Dunno what he was planning to do with such a big bird in the time given, but, i dont think he thought his story through.....

Ultimately, he broke the law - whether you feel sorry for the bird or not.

I'm more upset about the poor toddler who is fighting for her life in hospital after being scalded near to death in her bed by a burst hot water pipe.

Recipe for janH

Crying with laughter at this thread!!

What the hell are you all on?????

Its a SWAN - the man isn't out mugging old ladies or terrorising toddlers - he killed A BIRD

Oooh, the poor thing must have been terrified when he came at it with his knife?!?! Whereas the chickens, cows and lambs we eat are sent into a deep state of mediation first I presume so they just fall asleep nicely?

@ him not looking all that hungry - I thought that too!!

Odd man going out and killing animals - yes, it is animal cruelty, but not to the "throw him out of the country" extent!!! He would get less flack if he kept 50 dogs in some fleabitten squalor

Oh, and swans are peaceful??? Tell that to the one that chased me when I was 4 (I was eating the bread as opposed to feeding it to the ducks I had gone to feed... swan got pissed off )

FS I really suspect that a lot of this ridiculous outrage is because the man is a Muslim.

That's why it's so funny - all this sentimental bollocks (from people who haven't declared btw, that they don't eat meat) and manufactured outrage, as an excuse to air a few xenophobic idiocies. It's lucky we have a few mad muslims like this one - if we didn't, we'd have to invent them. (Oops, forgot, the Daily Mail does, doesn't it.)

The 'throwing him out of the country' remark was more about his comments about he hates this country and hates the queen, nothing whatsoever to do with his religion (not from my posts anyway).

Those of you that say 'it's only a bird' ffs, how would you feel if he done that to your cat or dog? I think it will be a different story then.

As for his mental health problems, well, he hasn't got any according to several people on here that read it in another paper. He had a psychiatrist report done and he has no mental health probs.

Yes it is more upsetting reading about a young child that has been abused, murdered, is seriously ill, etc, but as far as I am concerned that swan had as much right to a life as anyone else.

Nothing to so with him being muslim.

Sorry there were comments along the lines of "if someone had done something that had disrespected his culture..." This bizarre incident has absolutely nothing to do with culture. Absolutely nothing. But there were a few remarks that suggested it did.

Which is what made this thread so funny for me.

BTW someone earlier asked if those of us laughing felt any compassion for the wretched bird. For me, the answer is slightly less than I have for battery chickens (part of our culture?). The swan had a good life and probably died angry, not frightened. (I've always thought that would probably be preferable.)

Well, actually I don't think a swan has as much right to life as anyone else, and also I don't believe that this makes me a compassionless murderous fiend either. It is an animal, not a person, and people have more of a right to life than swans.If it was my dog or cat I would be sad, and cross, but I wouldn't be demanding that the man is 'sent back to where he came from'. If it was my mother, or my child, I would be baying for blood.

Yes it was a life, but everything we eat was once alive! In fact if you eat fruit and veg raw you are eating it while it is alive.

Animal cruelty is a worry, as it is often a symptom of sociopathic/psychopathic traits.

But there are more cruel things that happen every day.

And I do not, and have never , seen the life of a bird (or any other animal) as equivalent to that of a human. Speciesist to the core, me.

It sounds like it was there he was hungry and it was free in his eyes and as he hates this country and the queen he obviously had no regard for how this act would offend some people.The hypocrisy is that if someone did something violent and cruel which disrespected his culture/beliefs everyone would be up in arms.