Alistair Carmrmichael

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When is the lying nyaff going to resign, or has he no shame at all?

So cross I can't even spell his name right! "Carmichael."

Indeed. Whatever you think of SNP/ a devolved scotland you cannot have the Scottish Secretary, the head of the Scottish Office trying to discredit the leader of the Scottish parliament, and then lying about it.

If I was one of his constituents I would be mightily pissed off to be represented by such a scheming barefaced liar.

Bet he doesn't resign though - there is no way a lib dem candidate would win the by election.

He didn't even own up - he was found out. He needs to go.

I was just about to start a thread asking if he should resign. Lying hypocrite. And in answer to my question, he should absolutely resign. He has no integrity

Based on the lies the SNP told Scotland to try to get through Independence, Scottish stones in rather larger Scottish Independence glass houses - especially when Ms Sturgeon accuses him of picking up his seat on false pretences.

Over a million quid wasted on investigating this when he was lying all along. He should resign and pay back the money.

He got caught so he needs to go.....others carry, on as Isitmebut refers above, there but for the grace of god go they

Comma misplace there

I agree that he should resign as an MP - he has zero integrity or credibility as a result of his actions. But, how the hell does an investigation into this leak end up costing over £1m? Whatever the cost is or should have been, it wouldn't have been necessary if he'd just 'fessed up in the 1st place (but would likely have lost his seat given the narrow majority he now has). I just can't fathom how this ends up costing that amount of money.

I don'y think that figure has actually been confirmed as true. I think it's one that has just been retweeted so many times it is now believed to be true.

As a radio interviewer said to him yesterday, even if it were £1400 it's still a lot of money that need not have been spent had Carmichael simply admitted the truth.

Is it me

I voted no.

Can you please tell me the lies?
I find the whole Braveheart Independence thing exhausting.

wingsoverscotland.com/a-second-chance/

Well, this is interesting, some of his constituents are taking him to Court. Stakes just got higher.

I doubt if 'more money than sense' constituents who think that they can prove other numb-nut constituents were politically swayed by a weak lie that went against every word Sturgeon had said (before and after), will raise any stakes.

Scotland want to be seen as political grown ups, yet with 56 out of 59 seats in Westminster, their senior politicians grubbily want to pursue the other remaining seats on the premise of a white lie - hardly the stuff 'statespeople' are made of, within an inclusive of opinion Scotland.

premise of a white lie

Eh? The head of the Scottish Office deliberately released a memo that was known to be inaccurate. How is that a "white lie'

The crowdfunder has already raised over £12.5k in "stakes".

How can you call a deliberate attempt to smear the First Minister a "white lie"?

White lie? It beggars belief.

But should we surprised when there is more shock and outrage when SNP MPs indulged in a few selfies and a white bread and chips lunch than when a Government Minister lied barefaced on camera during an election.

There was more derision and fuss about when a (then 15 year old) MP ranted about her football team's opponents on Twitter than when rich Oxford 'Bullingdo boys' wrecked restaurants, abused staff and then threw money at the owners as reparation.

Carmichael is currently in his constituency. The Orkney and Shetland branch of the LibDems is meeting tonight. I wonder what they're discussing?

More news from Buster the cat as it comes in...

(Oh, and the crowdfunder has reached over £20k at time of writing.)

Shameful editorial tomorrow from the Guardian.

Among various suspect arguments, it proposes that he should stay because the SNP have too many MPs. It was ok when it was the Labour party of course.

The comments are worth a look though.

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2015/may/26/guardian-view-on-alistair-carmichael-stay-for-now

I only read the first two pages of comments, but ! Fairly unanimous... Carmichael must go.

My favourite (so far) argument why Carmichael must stay:

"We all want our MPs to be decent and most are. But they REPRESENT voters so that includes a few bad MPs to represent bad voters"

Perhaps he should resign when Alec Salmond does, he lied about having legal advice about post referendum Scotland being allowed to stay in the EU then spent 30,000 trying to block a FoI request.

Agree with cd. Perhaps there should be a mass resignation of all the liars, cheats and pocket liners across both Parliaments. Downside (upside?) of course is that there would be few politicians left if that were to happen.

I've seen the claims re EU advice, FOI etc many times, and twice today have read that Alex was exonerated following a civil service inquiry. Can those of you repeating these claims please provide some evidence? I genuinely don't know.

Whereas Carmichael has admitted his lies.

He was found by a civil service review not to have breached the ministerial code. However, the French, Spanish Belgian Governments have a bit to say on the subject www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11100406/Alex-Salmond-accused-of-lying-over-EU-talks.html

And then, of course, there's the now infamous Trewsgate www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scotland/10359238/Alex-Salmonds-secrecy-battle-over-250-tartan-trews.html