4 yr old with depression?!

[earlysbird]

because she didn't get into same school as nursery friends - parents causing it or can a 4 yr old really get depressed of her own accord??

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I wonder how much training the gp has had in child psychiatry? Other than a few weeks at medical school you do not necessarily have to have any further psychiatry training to be a gp, let alone specialist child psych training.

I'm extremely surprised that a gp would feel qualified to make a diagnosis like this without specialist advice.

She would be picking up on how the parents felt.

We managed to get dts into the same school as their nursery friends despite living in a different town. Had we not I would have made the best of it and chosen another school and made sure dts understood this was a good thing. The last thing any parent should want is to let a child that young pick up on distress.

Life is crap enough!

saw them on gmtv today and it is deffo the parents fault IMHO anyway

My DS and DD1 both went to a Special Needs/mainstream nursery, they were then put into mainstream school and we decided to put them in the one near to where we lived, rather than the one next to the nursery where all their friends went.
In sept I moved all 3 of my children (aged 8, 6, and 5) to a new school as we had moved house. Ds was devastated that he had to leave his friends, but after a week he made new friends and now loves his new school as much as the old school.
Including preschool, DS has been at 4 different schools, dd1- 4 schools, dd2-3 schools.
I think that the parents are to blame for this, they didn't get the form in on time and now they are doing this to get a place.

There is a good article in the Mail(of all places!) today here and it quite clearly suggests that the parents have projected their disappointment onto their dd and are teaching a her a poor lesson in how to deal with situations which don't go your way - blame culture and even perhaps that a pill will solve it. By carting her off to the doctors they have reinforced the idea that it is a problem and created a cycle.

Mind you with 3 kids under 5 the mum may well be under stress anyway, and possibly even at risk of pnd too, so the situation could easily have got completely out of proportion and then been taken up by the media.

Have just read the article, just what most pople on this thread have been saying.

The media do tend to forget the bit about Mum making a late application though.

That Mail article - hmmm, very easy to write that the parents should "grin and bear" the allocated school if you've got the one you want.

I think she genuinely is very sad, but the parents are undoubtedly "using" this to try and get the decision reversed.

Have they not appealed? At our appeal we used "emotional distress" as one of the criteria and we were successful.

They've appealed twice Unquiet Dad - both unsuccessful because the class is already full. Did you get your original application in on time though ?

Not sure of the ins-and-outs of that in this case, apparently theirs was late, but another Mnetter recently had a problem trying to do theirs online as the LEA system was down, had missed her postal deadline and was told she was too late - not sure of the outcome. I posted ours from an airport lounge to meet a deadline !

Hundreds of parents & children are disappointed each year when they dont get into the school that they want , but they dont all get depressed about it and make a media circus out of it.

A nursery place does not guarentee a school place, this is common place through out the country. An on time form more likely means you have a chance getting the school you want.

Lessons to be learnt here , unfortuantely the hard way for this family.

Why should they be allowed to appeal when they didn't abide by the rules the first time round. No excuse for getting a form in late , its the talk of most 'first time' parents and no doubt was discussed amoongst the parenst of the girls friends if it was such an issue that they all went to the same school.

I dont know whta it is like in other parts of the country but this way you have 6 weeks to get the form in from beginig of Autumn term. Most parents would have an idea which school they want by then and have made a short list to go and visit.

As I said - no excuses.

IMHO it will be terrible if the child DOES get a place now

Very unfair to all the parents who did abide by the rules and didn't blame everybody else for their mistakes

OK sad for the little girl but totally her parents fault

lizs - our situation was odd because, yes, we got the application in on time but for the school nearest to where we lived at the time. We then, unexpectedly, found the ideal house 2 miles away and found ourselves moving after application deadline - no point putting the new school on the form as we couldn't guarantee the move would go ahead (you never can until the lorry's unloading!).

So we then had 8 months of hell battling through traffic every morning (on a bus) to take DD to a school she didn't want to be at and was unhappy in.

The local school near the new house was full, but we got in on the second appeal.

from that Mail article
"I know it can be a struggle for mothers of very young children to be around at 3.30pm to pick up their children and thus meet other mums outside the playground. But it's a good network to get into if you can, and one Victoria Anderson must join for Mollie's sake."

That sounds like Mail-speak for "what does the heartless career bitch expect if she neglects her child to go out to WORK??"

Interested to know how someone can "get into" that network if their work routinely starts before 9am and finishes after 3.30.

Does the mum of the girl in question work ?

If she does then fair comment Unquietdad , but I'm not so sure that this woman does work .

I stand corrected if I'm wrong.

Well, the Mail comment seems to assume she does.

Thank goodness for this thread, it prompted me to check that the school we want dd to go to had received our application - they had, but it turns out we should have sent another form off to the LEA. Done it now