Poroshenko says Ukraine ready for total war against Russia

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I dismissed a lot of Poroshenko's and Yatsenyuk's statements in the past because they tended to be exaggerations and full of hyperbole, but this time I think it is real. I think they must have been told to go ahead.

"Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko today said he is ready for 'total war' against Russia as he claimed the crisis in eastern Europe is more serious than the threat from Islamic State.
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'I am not afraid of a war with Russian troops,' he said.

'We are prepared for a scenario of total war.

'We don't want war, we want peace and we are fighting for European values.'

He told Germany's Bild newspaper the unfolding drama on the edge of the EU was more critical than the Islamic State defiance.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2838094/Ukrainian-president-says-country-ready-war-Russia-says-crisis-dangerous-spread-ISIS.html

Germany is usually the major restraining influence in conflict with Russia, but from what Merkel said the other day, I think everything has been decided and everyone is on board.

"In a foreign policy speech in Sydney on Sunday following the G20 summit, Merkel sounded deeply despondent about Putin’s policies and behaviour and gloomy about the prospects of forcing a strategic shift from the Kremlin.

“This is not just about Ukraine. It’s about Moldova, it’s about Georgia,” said Merkel. “If things carry on like this … we will need to raise the issue of Serbia, of the states in the western Balkans.”

It was the first time a European leader had warned that Putin was seeking to press Balkan states to his side in the worsening tug-of-war in Europe between Moscow and Brussels.

“The Ukraine crisis is truly not a regional affair,” she said, voicing incredulity that Putin’s campaign could take place 25 years after Europe’s division into two blocs ended with the fall of the Berlin Wall. “It affects us all … how can something like this happen in the middle of Europe? Old thinking about spheres of influence, trampling international law, must not succeed.”

www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/17/european-leaders-fear-growth-russian-influence-angela-merkel-vladmir-putin

www.theguardian.com/world/2014/nov/17/european-leaders-fear-growth-russian-influence-angela-merkel-vladmir-putin

Let me ask isitmebut, would you rather get a good deal, which is what China offers, or be settled and have it plundered and have to pay for it yourselves, which is the western way?

DoctorTwo ... The Chinese State with $$$trillions in surplus can do what it wants; if can move mountains, send honking great Chinese rivers back 'the wrong way', its great that such a fine communist State with so many more $billionaires than America (yet the cheap buggers give less away) ARE recycling their wealth to Africa - and where ever else they find the natural resources they need to corner, to ensure their future growth.

The 'cost' to the industrialised world for China being very, very, nice to Africa, won't be known for years to come - but is, I grant you, better than sending 'Vlad and the boys' in, supported by armoured vehicles and tanks.

But NONE of that helps the majority of people in the Ukraine, who have binned their 'I luv Russia' tee shirts, and want to remain independent, snuggling up to whoever THEY want.

For Russia, the dangers of a non diverse economy, relying on energy prices, while entering into inter State conflicts - and with the additional affects of sanctions, have a Rouble down 40% this year to the $, and interest rates being raised to 10.5% to try and stem the currency 'outflow' from Russia - as the people start to protest on the streets.

"Russia Raises Interest Rate Amid Economic Woes"

"As oil drops to five-year lows and Western sanctions bite, Moscow's central bank boosts its key interest rate to double digits."

news.sky.com/story/1389986/russia-raises-interest-rate-amid-economic-woes