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Revolting Paper........Daily Mail

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wiltshire · 11/04/2004 23:20

I am going to break the habit of a lifetime here as I despise anyone copying the comments of other posters. I think that it is really annoying, as if the person can't make up their own comments or something. However a recent post had me intrigued. Here goes.

'thats the daily mail for you.
revolting paper.'

Just out of curiousity, I would like to know why the Mail is so revolting.

OP posts:
Heathcliffscathy · 12/04/2004 13:24

kiwisbird, i didn't offend you on other thread did i...i really hope not

kiwisbird · 12/04/2004 13:33

soph ? what thread darling girl? have I been maligned and not even noticed? arrghh

Heathcliffscathy · 12/04/2004 13:34

kiwi, have emailed you...am glad was paranoia...in the what age were you when had sex thread...thought my question might be taken as being flippant about something you found hard...hope it isn't xxxx

kiwisbird · 12/04/2004 13:36

lol grew up in NZ with two younger brothers, nothing shocks me petal
skin like cast iron

Davros · 13/04/2004 22:05

I don't read ANY newspapers on principle. I'm always surprised by how attached people are to this paper or that paper, they're all rubbish! I think I am a well informed, if not opinionated, person! I buy my local paper which I love and is about genuine local issues, otherwise I get my info from The Today Programme, Newsnight, Channel 4 News etc. OK, they may have their detractos, but they are not so much a product just out to make money (also get Private Eye ). People seem to think that their daily paper says something about the kind of person they are, universally duped imho! Everyone must have noticed that, as soon as there's an article about something you know a bit about, you see what misinformation and claptrap it all is, so assume the same for things you don't know much about. I grew up in a household that took The TImes and The Morning Star, I ask you!

tabitha · 13/04/2004 22:35

I (very occasionally) buy the DM just to wind myself up . I know, I know, I shouldn't waste my money but it always puts me in a good old angry mood for the rest of the day. It's so depressin - like eddm says it's ethos is fear and it's full of articles about how awful Britain is (usually because of assylum seekers, the unemployed, feminists etc...)
Now I usually stick to my local rag (Falkirk Herald) which is full of headlines, like 'Local Man steals paint' and has a lovely 'Baby of the Week' column.

squirmyworm · 13/04/2004 22:41

I hate the daily mail but buy it anyway - know your enemy and all that - and the articles frothing with indignation about single mums and gay people etc etc are so laughable that it has a horrid fascination for me. Also I do love quentin letts - he makes me laugh out loud.

btw before I succumbed, zombie like to its dubious charms, the DM once printed something horrible about me and I rang my mum (a DM devotee) telling her this should convince her to cease and desist from buying the filthy rag at once...she said (and I treasure this) oh yes, it's very unfair on you but I won't change papers because I do think it has some nice articles about cats!!

Tommy · 13/04/2004 22:46

I hate the DM as it harrassed my friend when her husband was killed in an accident (phoning her house etc to get her side of the story.)I was so angry about that that it put all the rest of the c* that it publishes in the shade.
Dreadful rag - for people who think they are too intelligent to buy the Sun etc...

StripyMouse · 13/04/2004 22:55

I agree, it is very biased and often very inaccurate. I don?t buy papers, mainly because when I do, I either don?t get round to reading them or am always disappointed by the lack of real news/quality of journalism.

So then, what do you all read - which one out there is worth the time and effort?

tigermoth · 14/04/2004 09:43

well, wilshire, you did want to know why some people think the Mail is so revolting, so I guess that excuses the anti Mail comments

I have to say, coming to this just now, I was surprised to see such open loathing and pidgeon-holing of Mail readers. They can be an easy targe I guess, but are other newspaper readers that much better, really?

I distrust all newspaper reporting - I think it's all biased, but some papers are more biased than others (but does that mean that I am biased). Is the answer to read more than one papar? I don't read any newspaper regularly, so I am not up to date with all current affairs. I make a point of reading all newspapers from time to time - at least to get an inkling of all current opinions.

piglit · 14/04/2004 15:58

I read the Times and Private Eye and agree that the DM is sh*te.

bundle · 14/04/2004 16:15

hate the daily mail's attitude towards women, they put down working mums, slate any woman who's over a certain age/putting on a few lbs, and yet women continue to buy this trash.
did anyone hear the paul dacre desert island discs? sue lawley didn't exactly push him on their attitudes towards women/ethnic minorities.

Frenchgirl · 14/04/2004 16:32

FIL who is racist and homophobic (how I love him....) reads the Daily Mail. Dh and I hate it hate it hate it. It is garbage.

Thomcat · 14/04/2004 17:17

On the rare occaision I have picked it up in a waitng room or something I always think it feels like a magazine rather than a newspaper and haven't liked it.

Personally I don't really like any paper very much but I do buy and read the Sunday Times a lot.

I prefer to watch the news.

goodkate · 14/04/2004 17:41

I am not ashamed to admit being a member of the conservative party and you could say right wing. But the Daily Mail is the most obnoxious, bigoted, racist piece of clap trap in print. Mind you the guarian is just as bad.

The independent is quite good though!

Marina · 14/04/2004 20:52

eddm and bundle have summed up why I'm not keen on the DM, to put it mildly: a "women's paper" that hates women who work outside the home, have sex outside marriage, have the vote, etc.
Tigermoth's right though...all papers have their proprietorial or editorial position to maintain. All of them make me spit tacks at times and it makes me even crosser when I know that was their aim in the first place.
I read the Telegraph for the health features, which are really good and often bizarrely at odds with its horrible political stance, the Independent for its Middle East coverage but also because it's overall my favourite, and the Guardian for the ads.

donnie · 15/04/2004 15:25

does that ghastly Linda Lee Potter still 'write ' for the Mail? she basically hates: women, blacks, Asians ( all ethnic minorities actually), gays and lesbians, teachers, unionists,refugees, teachers,all foreigners and anyone left of Ariel Sharon. And she is an ugly old bag as well!! I agree with all the earlier comments about how awful the paper is.I f only they would direct more of their anti foreigners energy into more important matters.
I find it difficult to get a paper I really like, am a bit fed up with the Guardian, might try ithe indie. I try to avoid all Murdoch ( filthy Nazi but that's another thread!)publications but since he virtually owns the entire world it's hard, plus as a teacher I have to read the TES as it's the only one of its kind.So it's not easy guys! maybe I should just give up and watch the tv news instead. I do occasionally get the International Herald Tribune though.

Janh · 15/04/2004 15:36

goodkate,

Please tell me you are joking!

marialuisa · 15/04/2004 15:41

I think she means taht the guardian is just as bigoted in its own sweet way. Got flayed the last time i posted about the guardian so am slinking off now.

Heathcliffscathy · 15/04/2004 15:50

so it isn't just me that's peed off with the guardian: it's sort of sold out somehow and tows the party line even when it's blatantly obvious the new labour have got it wrong wrong wrong (or at least tony has ) lets face it, any paper that is loyal to a political party one way or the other can't actually do it's job: of reporting critically on the powers that be and those in opposition. Actually papers since 1997 have had a far far more important job: they are the only effective opposition given the massive majority labour have enjoyed. imo they have failed massively in this task apart from the independent. and like i said in earlier post, although it's run by a bunch of self satisfied schoolboys, private eye seems to be doing a lot better on the investigative journalism front than any of the mainstream newspapers, also the front page is v funny this week.

Janh · 15/04/2004 16:03

Does it really toe the party line? I thought it was quite anti the Iraq war, for instance. I wouldn't describe it as bigoted either - bit blinkered possibly.

Heathcliffscathy · 15/04/2004 16:08

as far as i could read, pro the war janh...hence my dismay really...this lead to the indie being able to use the byline on its ads: if you're against the war don't read the guardian or somesuch...

Janh · 15/04/2004 16:14

Oh, really? That's what comes of reading it on the internet and not the actual paper - I tend to only read the bits that grab me without seeing the front page etc...and what columnists say isn't what "the paper" thinks I spose. Another illusion bites the dust.

OTOH it has hired Widdy! (Dug its own grave as far as ks is concerned!)

marialuisa · 15/04/2004 16:24

The Guardian hiring Anne widdecombe gave me hope Jan! Itmeans at least someone there has a sense of humour!

OldieMum · 15/04/2004 16:26

This will annoy some of you, but I have to stick up for the Guardian. I've been a Guardian reader since 1975. I also read the FT, as its foreign reporting is so good, but the Guardian's coverage of British politics and social issues is much better, IMO. There is a lot about it that irritates me, but I don't buy the idea that it subscribes to a 'line' in the way that something like the DM does. I also find it hard to accept the view that it slavishly supports the Labour Party. For example, see Polly Toynbee's scathing article about Blair and Iraq in yesterday's paper: here . The paper also runs excellent pieces of investigative journalism, such as the series on the criminal justice that Nick Davies has published this week, for an example, see this: here