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Revolting Paper........Daily Mail

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wiltshire · 11/04/2004 23:20

I am going to break the habit of a lifetime here as I despise anyone copying the comments of other posters. I think that it is really annoying, as if the person can't make up their own comments or something. However a recent post had me intrigued. Here goes.

'thats the daily mail for you.
revolting paper.'

Just out of curiousity, I would like to know why the Mail is so revolting.

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Moomin · 11/04/2004 23:33

IMHO, it's a spiteful, petty-minded, pious rag that doesn't have the decency to admit it's garbage, whereas at least the Sun, Mirror, Star, etc. know what they are. I hate the way it parades its right-wing, narrow-minded, homophobic, racist ideas as somehow wholesome and middle-class.
So that's MY two-penneth!

Nutcracker · 11/04/2004 23:33

Have no idea really. Dp buys the Daily Mail. Can't say it's revolting but then i don't always read all of it so maybe i'm wrong.

Beetroot · 11/04/2004 23:44

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spacemonkey · 11/04/2004 23:46

agree with you moomin and beety!

Heathcliffscathy · 11/04/2004 23:48

agree with you moomin, beetroot and sm, and hate you for keeping me awake. my granny reads the daily mail. it is hateful.

Beetroot · 11/04/2004 23:49

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hercules · 11/04/2004 23:50

If one more member of my family brings me a cutting from the daily mail again which "I might find interesting" then I am liable to be in it myself for what I will do.

Nutcracker · 11/04/2004 23:51

Ah now i know why dp buys it then. He is all of those things. Seriously.

Moomin · 12/04/2004 00:16

Here is a cutting that I thought hercules would find interesting:
From The Daily Mail, Wednesday 14th April 2004
"EVIL INTERNET CULT DROVE HOUSEWIFE TO SLAUGHTER FAMILY
Police are baffled as to the motive for the massacre of an entire family discovered in a pile of Daily Mail cuttings. Chief suspect is a female relative known only as 'hercules'. She was found brandishing a computer keyboard with which she had bludgeoned her family members to death. It is thought she had become interested in a left-wing-lesbian-asylum-seekers cult website known as Mumsnet and had been incited to kill by like-minded obsessives who revelled in the abandonment of housework and the care of their children in order to feed their hi-tech habit."

emsiewill · 12/04/2004 00:18

Whenever I read the DM (not often - when at my dads or SIL's), it just seems to be full of stories about how the "asylum seekers" are out to get all our jobs/money/eat our children etc etc. And I see how it influences my SIL (luckily my dad is a bit more rounded), and it worries me that people can read it and not understand how biased it is.
My sister told me that in her sociology class they were talking about the media, and she was shocked how many people had no idea about the political bias of the tabloid press. And we're not talking about 18 year olds here. Very sad

Tinker · 12/04/2004 00:28

The people I know who read the Daily Mail, don't ever seem to understand the insidious nastiness of it - that is how insidious it is I guess.

acnebride · 12/04/2004 07:13

DM makes me feel sick - we used to have it at work. I think it's that black border round the front page - makes everything look like a funeral report.

Founder of DM said he wanted to provide a 'daily dose of hate' and IMO it still does.

hercules · 12/04/2004 08:14

You forget to add that I am quite thick!

WideWebWitch · 12/04/2004 08:19

It makes me spit too, for all the reasons mentioned. It never fails to wind me up. My mum buys it so I do sometimes flick through it at her house. The sight of the front page alone can make me froth at the mouth.

Jimjams · 12/04/2004 08:22

I used to think that my MIL came out with realy weird stuff and I wondered where she had come across the ideas. Then I read her Daily Mail and it all became much clearer.

Moomin · 12/04/2004 11:24

My FIL will freely admit that he thought all teachers were lazy, holiday-loving lefties 'until he met me' and saw with his own eyes the amount of work I did. All of his views were, of course, gathered from the DM. I wonder how many other disturbing and inaccurate opinions he harbours based on this font of knowledge which he will never have the opportunity to disprove.
And he's not a bad bloke really! That's why the DM is so horrible. Stephen Fry has said some pretty good stuff about it before. I'd love to see his thoughts again.

merglemergle · 12/04/2004 11:56

I will say, I can't stand the DM any more than anyone else, but the Telegraph pisses me off even more. Its got the same crap as the Mail but with an intellectual gloss and cod-statistics.

On the other hand, the DM is the most smug newspaper I have ever seen. AND the newsprint comes off really really easily, like in your hands when you are reading it-I once went around all day with "asylum scum" printed on my hand and only found out once I got home. We're not allowed to wear political t-shirts or anything at work.

merglemergle · 12/04/2004 11:57

can I just say that I did not buy the Mail with my own money I found it on the bus.

eddm · 12/04/2004 12:08

And it poses as a woman's paper while spoutng the most reactionary, mysoginistic rubbish about e.g. how young women today are all doomed to be infertile because they like to have a drink and ? shock horror ? sleep with MEN. And mothers are all harming their children by going out to work/not giving them proper home cooking/ a thousand other crimes. Editorial ethos is about fear - fear of change, fear of human rights, fear of anyone not quite like us (asylum seekers etc.), fear of anyone challenging those in power (it's all 'compensation culture' you know).
I find it genuinely frightening that it's so popular. At least with the Sun most people only buy it for the sport and Page 3. Which is less objectionable IMO.

Heathcliffscathy · 12/04/2004 12:10

don't worry mergle, telegraph in big trouble...will end up going the way of the express we hope...

Heathcliffscathy · 12/04/2004 12:12

i have to say that although in a different league in terms of odiousness, i've been increasingly disturbed by serious bias in guardian...especially re reasons for going to war and stuff about our 'dear leader' (i've been reading too much private eye i reckon), the only paper i really trust and even then, not completely is the indie...which can be a bit worthy, but is at least not afraid to stick its neck out imo. thing is the weekend supplements in guardian are great...

Earlybird · 12/04/2004 12:25

So, what newspaper do you all read?

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wiltshire · 12/04/2004 13:20

Errrr.....the mail. I think that some of the comments here are fair though. Since being stuck at home on maternity leave, the newspaper is really my only contact with real world as such and I do think that reading on a daily basis about asylum seekers/left wing policies does influence ones thinking. I have tried reading the Guardian, which seems to lean completely the other way. We could do with a newspaper which is centred. However, the people who write columns in any newspaper have a right to their views whatever their political leanings. This is why UK has free speech. Just because I don't agree with everyones views doesn't make them or me wrong. I do think that Mumsnet debates are sometimes hijacked by a group of people who all seem to agree with each other and if anyone disagrees - heaven forbid. Completely off track but my humble opinion.

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kiwisbird · 12/04/2004 13:21

i hate the DM I read the indie and always have since arriving here
I must most shamefully admit to buying news of the world yesteday to read becks sex shame...

Heathcliffscathy · 12/04/2004 13:23

wiltshire, know what you mean about guardian (see post below) have you tried the independent (is a bit worthy, but fairly balanced imo...i feel like there is a huge disparity between different types of people here on mn...i find myself having massive argie with someone about one thing and being backed up by them on something else which is nice...