Conservative Carswell defects to UKIP 2

[claig]

"Patrick O's face was an absolute picture as he tried to puzzle out WTF that bloke in the audience was on about"

Yes, typical BBC to go to a questioner by name who said that UKIP policies were "madness" on the first question of the programme after just one panellist had answered.

You have to admire them for keeping on trying but the won't succeed. The people know the game.

Isitmebut

Sit down dear. You are spinning so hard you're in danger of falling over.

we keep telling you that the EU Parliament is as about as toothless as a goldfish so it's quite Ok to take their dosh and leg it elsewhere. Just like those old duffers do when they sign into the House of L offs each day to pocket £300 and bugger off go their London clubs for the day.

Portillo has just said on This Week that Cameron would welcome another coalition with the Libs as they are easier to manage than his own right wing!

Anything to keep the public sleep walking in the right direction!

One of the Guardians editors is trying to paint Farage as a fascist on Twitter.

36% turnout in Heywood and Middleton.

BBC are saying that people think that Labour will win it and have about 45% of the vote and that UKIP have about 35%

The BBC and every political prog, has the duty to 'question' all politicians of all partys on their policies, especially if their manifesto's are as flakey as Ukips

Ukips 2010 General Election manifesto Farage later called 'drivel" was wholly wiped off their Home website, but below is the BBCs summary – including Grammar Schools their backer Mr Wheeler insists on, electrifying 3 new train lines (but opposing HS2) AND taking the Public Sector staff levels back to 1997, thereby firing 1 million public sector employees and similar from local authorities.
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/election_2010/8617187.stm

After Ukip's conference, Farage was promising a whole raft of tax giveaways when every serious party is also focusing on reducing the budget deficit.

When the Institute of Fiscal Studies calculated the net cost of their plans, it was to add £19 billion a year to our debt.

Believe it or not, there is more to running a government/country than bribing voters, so if the likes of the BBC don't hold political partys to account and expose yet more electoral Ukip lies for votes, who will?

Farage says he thinks Lab has won Heywood. He has just said that any Conservative vote north of Birmingham just let's Labour in and that those Tories Gould join UKIP

'Portillo has just said on This Week that Cameron would welcome another coalition with the Libs as they are easier to manage than his own right wing! '

Yes, there was a theory that the media, the Guardian and all the rest bigged Clegg up last time with the old Cleggmania so that Cameron could have a coalition rather than a majority in order to continue with the European Project which his rightwing Eurosceptics might otherwise have sabotaged.

'One of the Guardians editors is trying to paint Farage as a fascist on Twitter.'

Who is it? Is it Michael White?

Recount at Heywood. Only 620 votes in it

Recount in Heywood according to UKIP's Paul Nutall. He says there seem to be about 620 votes between UKIP and Labour.

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Fantastic news. We're getting there. The walls will soon come tumbling down.

It'll be like Eastleugh I.e. UKIP win on the dY but when you include the postal votes.....

Which us shy Farage says he sill stop postal votes that are cast fir convenience sake and not as a necessity

In any country with 3 stroke 4 party system, never mind one where one party only needs 31% to be the largest party, UNFORTUNATELY the UK will have coalitions for the foreseeable future - so political leaders will have to get used to it and voters will find manifestos will be up for 'orse trading after the election.

Labour will get into power in 2015 and the country will see how the 'cost of living' is somehow improved by tax hikes for all, as a couple of £billion on the rich here, and a couple of £billion on the rich there, will not reduce the deficit as they plan and they've promised not to borrow more.

Until Labour is finally SEEN to run the UK economically into the ground, as in 1979, the Conservatives will be on hold to sort the BIGGER mess later on - and it will be interesting who they blame for a wasted vote, and it won't be themselves..

"The walls" have never come down on by-elections, otherwise the Lib Dems would have been running the UK for years. Duh.

Isitmebut, we are in new territory, UKIP are rewriting the rules, tearing the walls down and giving the people real choice and change.

It's coming, the system can't stop it, UKIP will cross the finishing line first in the future.

If Ed gets in, which I doubt he will, then it will be the last ever KB Govt and that alone will be a terrific result

Yes, I agree.

UKIP will scrap FPTP, then it will be game over and the spinners will be out.

How very dare newspapers question Farage and compare him to far right nationalists of the past and present spreading scare stories for nationalistic votes, immigration AND HIV must be a win double for the faithful. lol
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2787275/We-not-let-migrants-ve-got-HIV-says-Farage-Ukip-leader-wants-control-quantity-quality-people-coming-country.html

Just heard Carswell speak total twaddle, how embarrassing, 'the Tory whip did not speak to me', aaaaah. Bless.

The Ukip 'assimilation' to brain dead is complete, the man is clearly now the Deputy Leader.

Carswell and a Ukip that manipulates voters over the media with anti main parties and policy lies, wants 'change', no doubt, where 20% of voters can throw out a sitting MP if they don't like policies like 'austerity'.

That will sort out our problems, if like France and the Front Nationale, the other parties are frightened to sort out the countries problems as 'the people' turn to a far right nationalist party.

why are you surprised Isitmebut

When they are losing so badly the only option available to them is to smear Ukip. I hope Farage sues. Because you know Nd I know that thus us just yet more spin

And you fell for it

Shame on you

'Just heard Carswell speak total twaddle'

Were you paying attention? That wasn't my impression.

I was very impressed by Carswell. He gets it.

So the Tory vote let Labour win Heywood,

What a shame

We tried didn't we Claig but these Tories were just he'll bent on letting labour win

I hope Labour don't real use that ed is unelectable. We need ed to be leading labour

Realise.

I'm more concerned that there are 870 Green nutters in that constituency

Claig .... "Isitmebut, we are in new territory, UKIP are rewriting the rules, tearing the walls down and giving the people real choice and change."

If Ukip has lied for 20-years for an MEP platform to get Westminster seats and has a history of rubbishing their own General Election policies a year or so AFTER they get the votes, that is just the 'change to a banana republic.

Ukip remain a protest vote, please don't fool yourself that Ukip are any more than that, Ukip need to offer policies and economic plans that take the country forward and pay down £1.4 trillion of National Debt, rather than just spread political dissatisfaction in very difficult times.

If Ukip HAD those plans and acted responsible as a political party should, I'd agree with you, but currently you're just a bad political joke too many voters can't yet see, until Labour get back in and they're far worse off.

'We tried didn't we Claig but these Tories were just he'll bent on letting labour win'

Yes, they voted Cameron and got Miliband.

We're getting closer, they're shaking in their boots, we're going to make history