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Little boy has been removed from hospital by his parents

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Itsfab · 29/08/2014 13:42

He is very sick, needs constant treatment. His parents have taken him to France.

I don't understand why the hospital didn't notice or alert the police for 6 hours.

The police won't comment on the parents being Jehovah's Witnesses.

It sounds wrong when the statement said he was removed without consent. The child is theirs, should be allowed to be in charge of him, but of course it is he that will lose his life if not cared for and that isn't in his best interests necessarily.

I hope he is found and can be cured.

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EdithWeston · 30/08/2014 17:32

The Hampshire police have also said they still hope the warrant will not have to be used and that the family will come forwards voluntarily.

I think what everyone wants more than anything is to know where Ashya is, and to establish that there is the right care around him, he is fed and he is pain-free.

They've not released enough information for the public to possibly know whether there are good treatment options to try, or if palliative care is the right thing now. But all that is a bit secondary to finding him and making sure he is safe and as stable as possible.

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 17:41

If a child has been discharged against medical advice, it needs to be investigated.

I do wonder why they initially didn't just appeal via the media to them to return.

All this manhunt stuff and asking the public to be on the look out, as a first resort, feels very confrontational.

MrsDeVere · 30/08/2014 17:47

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ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 17:49

Sorry it's getting to you DV

EdithWeston · 30/08/2014 17:55

"I do wonder why they initially didn't just appeal via the media to them to return."

Probably because they knew early on that they were not in UK and British media appeals would not reach them. They needed an effective And immediate "look out" elsewhere in Europe, and the options on how to achieve that are rather different.

MrsDeVere · 30/08/2014 17:57

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EdithWeston · 30/08/2014 18:02

MrsDeVere Thanks

There are several MNetters whose stories I 'know' and I have been thinking how very hard it must be for them to have a story like this so prominent in the news.

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 18:03

They needed an effective And immediate "look out" elsewhere in Europe, and the options on how to achieve that are rather different.

Well they were liaising with French and Spanish police, who are better trained for the task than UK holidaymakers.

I dunno. Just seems strange.

I worry about the sort of things people might say about the situation too.

Yes, people come away from news stories with odd ideas.

Myhensareladies · 30/08/2014 18:16

MrsDeVere Flowers

OpiesOldLady · 30/08/2014 18:22

Now BBC news are saying that his family has taken steps to be able to feed Ashya.

I think they probably know what they are doing, and I wish them all well.

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 18:27

Now BBC news are saying that his family has taken steps to be able to feed Ashya.

That really made me smile.

I hope my feeling about them is correct and if it is, I hope they are getting shit hot legal help.

GimmeMySquash · 30/08/2014 18:29

How does the BBC know?

Itsfab · 30/08/2014 19:34

If no laws have been broken and there is no child protection order on the child are the police involved because they don't think the parents have the best interests of the child at heart and they think the child will die without a hospital? I know it is probably obvious, and I can't explain what I mean, but having read more posts I am more Confused than before.

It is all so upsetting and I have shed tears for the little boy and his parents. Initially I was feeling negative thoughts about them but now I am just so sorry for them.

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ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 19:43

From the BBC;

Although the arrest warrant was "based around neglect", Mr Shead said this did not necessarily mean the parents would be charged with that offence.

"It purely gives us the power to arrest and then we will be able to speak to them," he said.

(Shead is the Asst Chief Constable)

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 19:43

Not sure Itsfab

GimmeMySquash · 30/08/2014 19:55

They can warp the law to suit themselves when it suits, what a system we plebs pay into and vote for.

Greengrow · 30/08/2014 21:51

Yes, always the state has masses of child snatchers. Keep well away from the authorities at all times if you can manage it.

Bumply · 30/08/2014 22:00

BBC news flash - the family have been found in Spain.
Hope the boy is ok

MrsDeVere · 30/08/2014 22:01

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EdithWeston · 30/08/2014 22:02

Thank goodness for that.

Now I hope they can sort it all out in private.

Greengrow · 30/08/2014 22:06

Yes, they need privacy. If he is dying then it 's for the parents to decide the country, place and manner of dying, not the UK NHS or any state. It is a really important matter of principle.

If that right is now going to be denied them then I think it's awful they've been found.

MrsDeVere · 30/08/2014 22:11

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TalkinPeace · 30/08/2014 22:13

My local hospital.

THat poor family.

Pre the op he was a bright but ill little boy
post the op the pictures show a shell
the hospital cannot release him because they have to ensure medical treatment
but they know that nothing can save the poor kid beyond ten days
so "accidentally" he gets to mainland europe with his family to die in peace

I hope above hope that NOBODY is EVER prosecuted for giving the poor little tyke the best possible ending
familiar and with family, in the sunshine

Greengrow · 30/08/2014 22:15

I believe the NHS say there is nothing more that they can do. In cases like that I think any parent (and any adult if they are the one ill) should have the right to go where they please on the planet to die how they choose and where they choose. Busy body doctors and NHS workers and social workers should stay out of it. The parents should be able to choose the place and manner of his dying.

winnertakesitall · 30/08/2014 22:18

Hear head greengrow.