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Little boy has been removed from hospital by his parents

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Itsfab · 29/08/2014 13:42

He is very sick, needs constant treatment. His parents have taken him to France.

I don't understand why the hospital didn't notice or alert the police for 6 hours.

The police won't comment on the parents being Jehovah's Witnesses.

It sounds wrong when the statement said he was removed without consent. The child is theirs, should be allowed to be in charge of him, but of course it is he that will lose his life if not cared for and that isn't in his best interests necessarily.

I hope he is found and can be cured.

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GimmeMySquash · 30/08/2014 14:44

Do you think there may later be a legal case for disclosing personal information and starting a Man hunt?

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 14:45

Or at least an internal enquiry. It doesn't quite add up.

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 14:51

And if people like MrsDV who are familiar with Nasogastric tubes and battery packs are saying 'what's the problem? You can recharge them or manually feed with a syringe', then it's even odder than I appreciated.

MrsDeVere · 30/08/2014 14:55

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divingoffthebalcony · 30/08/2014 15:03

Maybe I have this wrong, but from what I read about this story, the little boy was only diagnosed very recently, and has been hospitalised ever since. So there's a chance that his parents aren't familiar with his tube feeding regime.

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 15:08

It's usual for the family to be trained in those things isn't it?

Of course, we could hear at any moment that the parents have been injuncted.

But in the meantime, I suspect the journalists (who will know perfectly well what the legal aspects are) are probably putting a fair amount of pressure on the hospital and police to explain some of this.

GimmeMySquash · 30/08/2014 15:12

It scares me a bit all the things Dr's expect parents to do, I have to administer drugs to my dc, I wish I didn't have the responsibility of doing, I wish a community nurse would come in and do it, it is hard enough being a parent without daily physio/drugs etc and this puts extra pressure on your relationship with your child. I have a child who has been advised to have enema's, I am waiting for the prescription, the GP letter got lost, so we had to send in a copy of our letter for the GP. I have never had an emema nor given one before, I am dreading it.

MrsDeVere · 30/08/2014 15:23

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edamsavestheday · 30/08/2014 15:24

MrsDV it would have been the police or hospital who told journalists about doctors' consent or permission. I agree it is odd wording and so I'm sure will the hacks concerned. There will be a reason for it. Presumably a formula to explain why the police hunt when no laws have been broken.

MrsDeVere · 30/08/2014 15:30

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ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 15:36

The burning of the notes was an amazing feeling. All that horrible stuff up in smoke.

Good Flowers

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 15:41

From the BBC;

According to Ian Pople, a consultant neurosurgeon, the battery in the feeding machine used by Ashya can't be changed easily.

It is integrated within the machine, much like an iPhone, and it means the machine has to be taken apart to replace the battery.

It's also not designed to be run on batteries for a long period and is usually plugged into mains.

In other words, it's only battery-reliant for short periods, such as going to the toilet, or moving between wards.

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 15:43

But then I have a normal 3 pin plug socket in my car, just attaches by adaptor to the cigar lighter....

Anyway it seems there is some activity around a house in Marbella

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-28993791

MrsDeVere · 30/08/2014 16:11

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GimmeMySquash · 30/08/2014 16:31

That is one mighty list there MrsDeVere.

OpiesOldLady · 30/08/2014 16:37

According to BBC news an international arrest warrant has been issued against the parents :(

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 16:43

For what offence?

Greengrow · 30/08/2014 16:56

I haven't read it all but do we know if the child is dying?
If it is dying it should be for the parents to decide where and how that happens and how much intervention which may just prolong life rather than cure the child is given. It is a really important issue of our age.

MyFairyKing · 30/08/2014 17:04

I am very unclear about this case. They appear not to have committed a crime unless there is more that we are not being told.

I feel for the parents. They are in a horrific position.

Greengrow · 30/08/2014 17:10

One reason I would always keep as far away from all authorities as possible and want to die at home like my parents managed. Care homes have similar issues at the other end - people basically imprisoned or not allowed freedom once they get ensnared into the system. Perhaps I should buy the isolated cottage in new zealand now to escape to when needed.

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 17:23

According to the Daily Fail; Hampshire Police have obtained a European arrest warrant for the parents, Brett and Naghmeh King, on the issue of 'neglect'.

Greengrow · 30/08/2014 17:24

If he's dying anyway then to let him die in the way the parents want him to die is not neglect in my view. I hope they don't find him. If he's not dying and they are refusing treatment which will cure him or is 70% likely to cure him then that is different and it is then like all the court cases over JW children where the parents are not under English entitled to refuse treatment which will save the life of their child although may refuse it for themselves.

ArsenicyOldFace · 30/08/2014 17:25

Yes it seems there is scope for interpretation.

IPityThePontipines · 30/08/2014 17:32

The other possible issue with the feeding tube is if they have the skills and equipment to repass it, if it becomes blocked or dislodged.

I would agree that the hospital can't really just shrug their shoulders, they have a duty of care.

These parents may be lovely, they may absolutely be doing the best for him
.However, there are parents in other circumstances where this is definitely not the case, a hospital can't just make one rule for one family and one for another. If a child has been discharged against medical advice, it needs to be investigated.