The Rotherham 1,400 children plus – WHO is responsible?

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The Rotherham situation, where the authorities appear to have done NOTHING to protect children in care, goes back 16-years, as it appears there was a largely ethnic element involved and ‘the powers that CONTINUE to be’ in a job, were afraid in that political climate, to be seen as ‘racists’, but why?

I can remember posting when anyone even daring to mention the affects of immigration on housing, jobs and local services were called ‘racist’, sometimes whole posts/threads were deleted on media boards (even the Daily Mail) - while the government of the day, not held to account by the media on their side, were free to continue a ‘multicultural’ agenda they adopted in their first few years they never sought at the ballot box.
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2354713/BBC-chief-admits-We-deep-liberal-bias-migrants--changed.html

But as this article points out, the fear of being accused a racist, affected even household conversations.
“Are we all racist now?”
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10860492/Are-we-all-racist-now.html

And the problem with secret sofa government policies, where local authorities and media compliance is key to continued electoral success, is that you can’t be SEEN to raise ethnic issues OR plan ahead for the numbers in homes, healthcare or schools – especially in a 2010 General Election manifesto, in electoral damage limitation mode.
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/6418456/Labour-wanted-mass-immigration-to-make-UK-more-multicultural-says-former-adviser.html

The 2000’s seem to be a time when our public sector/local government numbers increased enormously, but seemed to both have THEIR OWN POLITICAL agendas, and failed so many vulnerable people, especially children in and out of care.

For no one in Rotherham to take responsibility for what happened to the 1,400 children (we know about), is a national disgrace – that is not good enough.

Obviously this should sink police careers. Because it is just that it do so, and to hammer the point home to the police.

Frankly, if they can't be bothered to do their jobs, they are inviting people to take the law into their own hands, which is a development we don't want in a civilised society.

Frankly, if they can't be bothered to do their jobs, they are inviting people to take the law into their own hands, which is a development we don't want in a civilised society

Absolutely agree about the risk of this happening

Eight men in Bucks in court accuse of sex crimes against girls The BBC doesn't name them but today's Telegraph did and all but one have names of Indian origin.

Why are you so very keen to focus on race, pistol? Do you not think that it is true that masculinity in the UK is equated with sexual prolifigacy? Why do you not want to think about the one unifying fact of all the perpetrators and instead think about their race? Because the extent to which the background culture is significant is only insofar as that culture views manliness as unbounded sexual desire and couples this with misogyny. Why can't we talk about these attitudes and the extent to which the whole of our communities are beset by them?

Um no Pistol, I disagree about the racial profile of taxi drivers as stated because it isn't the same all over the country. I was talking about the night time economy, which is a factor in grooming of young women and girls according to the CSA lead at the CPS. There have been incidents in other parts of the country where the night time economy isn't predominantly Asian run.

Shouting Race! Over and over again isn't really much of an argument is it? Especially when you're trying to argue that I have said that race wasn't an issue in the Rotherham case, when I have reiterated, clearly, more than once that that isn't what I believe or know to be the facts of the matter. Why don't you try actually engaging with people's points instead of trotting out the EDL party line you're so fond of.

Jimmy Saville wasn't a single perpetrator. He was joined in his abuse by others, his abuse was collided in by others. He got away with it for so long because of the illusion of power he had. The only real difference between him and the gangs of men in Rotherham is that he wasn't a preferential offender, and they were.

I live in Yorkshire. In my town nearly all the taxi drivers are white. Just saying.

that's interesting nomdevere, these cases had made me think maybe the mono-culture in my town's taxi trade had spread nationwide. Still odd that Rotherham and my town down South and next two towns are so Muslim-dominated though. Only one of those towns has a large Asian population, btw.

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11069178/Rotherham-researcher-sent-on-diversity-course-after-raising-alarm.html

I'm not sure if this has been posted before

yes, it's astonishing that their reaction to 'girls are being raped and exploited' was 'yes dear, let's send you on a diversity course to show you that you really should shut up about it'.

council chief exec to resign About time too - but the Police and Crime Commissioner is clinging on, and there doesn't seem to be any way of removing him. So not only are PCCs pointless and expensive, with only 10 per cent of people bothering to vote for them, they are unaccountable too.

Interesting clip about the council chief, edam ... although with my cynical hat on, I suspect from his (apparent) age that he's actually been given a nice retirement deal to persuade him to go

If I'm wrong about his age, how much says he'll simply pop up elsewhere in the council??!!!

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2756140/Rotherham-child-abuse-victim-confronts-alleged-abuser-street-SHE-arrested-van-load-police.html

shocking what is wrong with this police force?

quite knitted, every time you think S Yorks police (or the Met, tbh) have scraped the barrel they find a new level of wrongness. FFS.

Its obvious something is rotten there, obvious!
going to be a program on radio 4 about abuse in a school in rotheram. not sure when.

If you pay someone in that position of authority obscene amounts of money he's not going to care if he does a good job or not because he can sit for weeks denying any part in it, and still walk away loaded. It's a disgrace. He should be walking away without a pension.

police and crime commissioner has finally said he'll resign

It's a disgrace. He should be walking away without a pension

He has behaved abominably, he has failed those girls and their families and the wider community he has not done his job.

What motivation is there for the next one to do theirs?

I am glad locals got the chance to have their say in his presence about his misconduct.

It is one thing to ask 'who is responsible', but another to try and leverage the circumstances of these crimes, for direct political gain.

How many other towns/cities quote child sex abuse figures within their 'poster' campaigns????

Has the UK's politics really sunk this low???

“Ukip Hit 'Unacceptable Low' With Rotherham Child Abuse Poster Campaign”
www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukip-hit-unacceptable-low-rotherham-child-abuse-poster-campaign-1471900

“Ukip have been accused of exploiting the trauma felt by victims of the Rotherham child sex abuse scandal to help their campaign in winning an upcoming police commissioner election”.

“The posters, which will be displayed across South Yorkshire until the PCC election on 30 October, accuses Labour of failing the victims of the child sex abuse scandal in the area and suggests there are "1,400 reasons why you should not trust Labour again”

bbc NEWS IS unbelievable, a social worker said girl wore crop top, and therefore - was deserved of her abuse? three thousand went missing? In greater manchester?

This whole issue obviously needs needs to be reformed and with a clear mind and purpose, there will be no room at the Head of the police force for any UKIP bigot in disguise, who need to win the SUPPORT of all within the services and community to do what is best for the children - so people need to vote today for common sense today, not over react. IMO

“Ukip Founder Alan Sked Says The Party Is 'Morally Dodgy' And 'Extraordinarily Right-Wing'”
www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/26/ukip-founder-alan-sked-morally-dodgy_n_2190987.html

"Its extraordinary," Sked told the HuffPost UK, "that at the last general election, with the country facing the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression, [Ukip's] flagship policy was to ban the burqa."

"They're not an intellectually serious party. Their views on immigrants and on [banning] the burqa are morally dodgy."

“'The party deliberately attracts the racist vote': Ukip poster girl tipped by Farage as 'rising star' quits over 'terrifying' lurch right.”
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2627408/The-party-deliberately-attracts-racist-vote-Ukip-poster-girl-tipped-Farage-rising-star-quits-terrifying-lurch-right.html
• Sanya-Jeet Thandi urges supporters not to vote for party anymore

• Hit out at ad campaign which claimed 26 million migrants after British jobs
• Claims Nigel Farage has let party descend into 'form of racist populism'

“A UKIP poster girl described by Nigel Farage as a ‘rising star’ has quit after describing it as a ‘racist’ and ‘terrifying’ party that she cannot vote for.”

“Sanya-Jeet Thandi, 21, a British-born Indian who had starred in a party election broadcast and spoken at its annual conference, accused Ukip of deliberately attracting racist voters.”

“The university student said the party had abandoned its core supporters and called on others to end their memberships and boycott the upcoming European elections.”

It is good to see that democratic common sense IS alive and well, and that even in a similar (low) turnout to before, UKIP mania was not seen as the answer to a sensitive social situation, where our services and communities need to work together to solve serious issues.

“Labour win South Yorkshire police commissioner poll”
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-29850080

“Labour's Alan Billings has been voted in as the new Police and Crime Commissioner for South Yorkshire.”

“Dr Billings took just over 50% of the vote in the poll held following the resignation of Shaun Wright following the Rotherham child abuse scandal.”

“UKIP's Jack Clarkson finished second with 32% of the vote, the Conservatives were third and the English Democrats fourth.”

“The turnout was 14.88%, down from 14.93% in 2012.”

“Doncaster council chief executive, Jo Miller, said the turnout at the ballot box in the town was only 3.5%, with 11.7% postal votes.”

If the gangs of child abusers were that powerful then as soon as any policeperson spoke up you can be sure they would be up on a false racist charge a few days later. And as racism is such a hot potato they would be out on their ear as the senior staff wouldn't dare support them. Because of Stephen Lawrence and other cases no police person would dare risk being accused of racism, it means career end.

It feels as if the people involved are in a time warp where 'loose' girls got what they deserved. It was a bit like this in the late 60s when I was a teenager. Though I have no knowledge of anything like this, but girls were 'good' or not.

It appears the abusive gangs were all powerful. No one could risk challenging them.

Surely when the state willingly allows the rape of one race by another the correct term for this is Ethnic Cleansing?

No social workers or police have been charged with abetting this, which strongly implies that the state approved their actions. None even disciplined to the best of my knowledge.

Meanwhile tens of thousands of cases of FGM go unpunished, which is clearly the most horrific form of child abuse. Whereas the child snatchers lie and perjure themselves to rip babies and children from normal families arms, so long as they are blue eyed that is. Again a form of ethnic cleansing through demoralisation.

Hell in Italy the social services even go so far as to use electro shock treatment on kids in care to get them to make false allegations against their parents. That is once they are in care, they've already been stolen by the state, though they then tortured the kids to try to... the only motivation which makes any sense is to either wrongfully prosecute the fathers or heap so much pressure and defamation on them that they top themselves. Again a form of ethnic cleansing.

The Jaye report suggested that the social workers didn't act for fear of being thought racist. But what could be more racist than Ethnic Cleansing? And they did act... They defamed the victims of pedophilic gang rape by claiming that they consented, were prostitues or that their motivation for complaining was racist. I would purport that this would be far more difficult a thing to do for a normal, healthy, reasonable person than blowing the whistle and seeing the children safe. Imagine writing a report on a 12 year old gang rape victim that makes their suffering worse.... It's subhuman at best...

Overall this sounds a bit like the Gestapo being excused for their exterminiation camps as, "They feared that their commitment to racial purity might be questioned".

www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/children-brainwash-electroshock-sell-foster-parents-italy-police-arrests-a8978891.html?amp&__twitter_impression=true

I live in Rotherham and wondered if anyone would be willing to donate dolls clothes. The dolls I have are mostly Baby Annabell, 30cms in length.
Since January I have collected dolls to give to children in need.
They are in excellent condition. I have knitted jackets and blankets. Also made a changing bag, with nappies. As they are preloved dolls I will include an Adoption Certificate.
Are there any knitters willing to knit jackets. I can provide wool and pattern?
Christmas is approaching and I am panicking that they won't be ready.
Would anyone be willing to help please.