A woman has attempted to run over an autistic man riding a bicycle with her Audi Q7 but instead destroyed a hairdressers

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www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/motorist-arrested-on-suspicion-of-attempted-grievous-bodily-harm-after-autistic-cyclist-is-knocked-off-bike-in-road-rage-crash-9511055.html

Basically woman driving £££ Audi 4x4 tank around Richmond, with children in the back, has argument with autistic cyclist, and drives her car at him in attempt to kill or seriously injure. Succeeds only in demolishing the front of the hair salon.

Hopefully she gets an appropriate sentence commensurate with using a deadly weapon. Doubt it though.

LOL at MrsWinnebago defending vehicle drivers as a stereotyped minorutyy - is there an offensive cnstruct for drivers of large RVs, MrsW? I'm thinking Homer Simpson.....

I think White Van Man is an 'ist' term...and offensive at that - but when I think of WVM I don' think of every single hard working skilled man in trade who is courteous, concientious and happens to drive a white van. I think of speeding down residential roads at 4pm, pushing in at queues for lights, jumping reds, cutting people up at roundabouts and pushing in some more. Especially by speeding down the Turn R lane and then pushing in at the front of the Straight On Lane and blocking the road for everyone who does want to turn R.....

What should these people be called to be non-discriminatory?

They are different from Boy Racers - but may well switch from one to the other once they get home and hop into their Black Corsa with souped up accessories.

I don't think we know if there were witnesses. The cyclist kicked her car. That might have distracted her and he may have been solely the cause of the crash, particularly as clearly someone thinks he is not safe to drive because they make him go out with a massive sticker on him saying he has a disability. Presumably he wears that because he's has countless altercations with drivers and lots of form of that kind which I suppose the police will need to look up. Anyway we don't know yet who is to blame.

I am not a great fan of people in these massive cars they don't need. Often the drivers are particularly bad at driving. As a cyclist I avoid them by a long way.

woah, JaneParker, that's some massive discriminatory stereotyping going on in your post.

I hope you wouldn't make the same sort of remarks based on skin colour. FYI, disability hatred is just as wrong as racial hatred.

Wow! WOW! WOW!

And this, boys and girls, is someone putting two and two together and making 17. This is why you should alway take care to use BIDMAS. That concludes the lesson for today.

That's for Jane, btw, not Edam.

I showed both sides didn't I? That some of these women driving the big cars to schools are bad drivers and though the other side that he apparently kicked her car and was wearing a sticker warning people his disability had this kind of effect. The law of contributory negligence at the very least presumably is relevant.

Anyway hopefully the police can sort out who did what.

If someone kicked a car it would not be surprising if that driver then swerved and that was caused by the kicker. It sounds like 5 children were in the car and they might well be able to give witness evidence.

None of us will know the full story until the trial if indeed either party is prosecuted.

Um, no. You speculated.

The fact that he has a badge does not mean it is there because his disability has "this kind of effect".

I imagine there will be several witnesses who can piece it all together.

I can understand Janes point somewhat. I can't see what the desired impact here is. A wheelchair sticker yes so you know to give space when parking and likewise a flag for the child carrier trailer on a bike so you can see that the bike is longer than usual but I cant see the reasoning behind a sticker pointing out autism when cycling on busy roads.

Its not like children wearing tshirts in playgrounds, my nephew has one of these and its invaluable when warding off tut tutting at the large child on the swings, but anyone who is not fully able to cycle has no business on the roads, you are very vulnerable as a cyclist.

If a person tries to or actually runs someone over with a car then they need to be done for attempted murder.

That's the long and short of it.

On purpose I mean, obviously.

Hi, Cyclist here.

So many things I would like to comment on:
"Cyclist kicking the crap out of the side of the car, driver turns wheel to get away hits accelerator as she is scared/frightened of the bloke kicking the crap out of her car."

But until my statement is given, my lips are sealed. Wait till you hear hers!

Might I, politely, suggest a little reading up on Autism as 1 in 60 kids are born with it now. It comes along with a little problem called Meltdowns, which are brought on with a lot less than a stationary car pulling off to try and run, allegedly, you down.

For the record, she was arrested on the scene for attempted murder, CPS have reduced the charge.

Am more than happy to answer an autism questions, gosh, from the crap above I suggest a web chat with me more than the DC from CID.
I am a Sheldon Cooper kinda of Aspie; most people whom meet me wouldn't know I wasn't Human, for about the first 20 minutes :)

just one:
Presumably he wears that because he's has countless altercations with drivers and lots of form of that kind which I suppose the police will need to look up

I would suggest the use of presumably to be totally wrong as it suggests that you have evidence to back up your statement; maybe mean assume?

I have had countless altercations with drivers, as someone who did up to 30k a year in a car how could one not?
I have been slapped on the head through an open sunroof and punched in the head when I had the roof down (he got nicked for that).

All this just goes to show the problems that one has if one is autistic living in a world where the default behaviour is to think nothing wrong with him cos he looks normal.

BUT: I have no form with the police. And to suggest that just because a person is autistic that they would is the, insert swearword, typical type of crap I have to put up with just because I look normal but need help like you wouldn't believe.

Cant resist, one more:

particularly as clearly someone thinks he is not safe to drive because they make him go out with a massive sticker on him saying he has a disability

As someone who has no friends or family since my breakdown, I can promise you that no one put a massive (no idea where the size came in) sticker on me.

Even so, why would a sticker be an indicator of my ability to ride a bike? Granted, if it was that massive it probably would affect my ability :)

maybe he kicked her car as part of the arguemnt if, say she moved the car towards him or revved up and threatened him with it. thing is without independent witnesses we may never know.

no excuse of the woman though.

howsillyihavetohaveanickname

"It comes along with a little problem called Meltdowns"

As you have asked.

Having seen meltdowns they have scared the crap out of me. It would however back up the hypothesis that she acted the way she did out of fright rather than anger. but unless someone was there or they have found the resulting court case we will never know.

She is on trial now, charged with

• attempted GBH
• destruction of property
• dangerous driving.

She has pleaded not guilty, claiming vehicle malfunction.

www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/13805068.Mum__rammed_cyclist_through_salon_window_with_her_4x4_following_argument_/
www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/13806669._My_car_malfunctioned__claims_driver_accused_of_trying_to_mow_down_cyclist_in_road_rage_row/

Guilty on all counts. Sentencing will be on 6th November. She should get around 4 years I guess?

www.surreycomet.co.uk/news/13837908.Guilty__Mum_tried_to_mow_down_autistic_cyclist_after_road_rage_row/

She got three years. Good.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3307208/A-mother-mowed-cyclist-smashed-beauty-salon-road-rage-crash-jailed-three-years.html

I fail to see what this has to do with the man being autistic. Either he can behave decently in public, or he cannot. In the latter case, he shouldn't be outside on his own.

Maybe the woman was autistic, too. Mild autism often goes undiagnosed in women because girls are expected to compensate for lack of social skills.

We cannot let men run around and kick cars, regardless of whether they are autistic or not, and we cannot have people drive into beauty salons because someone kicked at their car.

If I see someone wearing a badge explaining that he's autistic, I might forgive him for not greeting me, or being a bit socially inept.
Aggressiveness is nothing that is excused by ANY mental health problem. Or health problem, period. I don't care if someone is only aggressive because he has a brain tumor - he's just as dangerous as someone who is just "evil", or whatever.

I think Natalie Pyne is the dangerous person in this tale, isn't she?

And she cut him up first.

Had previous convictions too.

Having been caught drunk driving, and now this, she obviously has a lot of issues. Those poor children (writes the daughter of an alcoholic who was eventually convicted of being drunk in charge...)

From the dm article :

"The court heard Pyne, whose children are seven, eight, ten, 12, 14 and 15, has another conviction for a road offence in 2009.
She was caught driving dangerously fast down the wrong side of a road by police, before being involved in a 60mph chase along a residential street in Brixton.
Pyne was later convicted of driving with excess alcohol, disqualified from driving and received a suspended sentence."

Awful record.