A woman has attempted to run over an autistic man riding a bicycle with her Audi Q7 but instead destroyed a hairdressers

[AgaPanthers]

www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/motorist-arrested-on-suspicion-of-attempted-grievous-bodily-harm-after-autistic-cyclist-is-knocked-off-bike-in-road-rage-crash-9511055.html

Basically woman driving £££ Audi 4x4 tank around Richmond, with children in the back, has argument with autistic cyclist, and drives her car at him in attempt to kill or seriously injure. Succeeds only in demolishing the front of the hair salon.

Hopefully she gets an appropriate sentence commensurate with using a deadly weapon. Doubt it though.

This was six months ago, this time a man with autism arguing with a cyclist, telling him it was dangerous to be cycling on the pavement. The autistic man was killed by the cyclist.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/lewis-gill-killed-andrew-young-3181527

"...and then Mummy said the F word and shouted 'your toast' which we thought was silly because we had asked for a packet of crisps, not toast.."

Fideline - when I said 'accelerating away' I didn't mean away from him, I meant accelerating away from a standing start - because you said they must have been stationary. She clearly drove (whether accelerating from standstill or from further down the road) towards him.

Until anyone knows the full story how can you possibly comment?

Fucking hell, I think she needs to go to prison let alone lose her licence.

No one can comment accurately - it's all speculation.

And we probably never will know the full story because these things appear in the press and unless it is a high profile court case, are never heard of again.

Main thing is, no died, thank goodness, and luckily the cyclists injuries were relatively minor.

Sorry Charm I misunderstood you*.

I am speculating Sparkling based on eyewitness reports.

Actually these stories tend to get followed up by the cycling press/bloggers.

I just think there's too many factors we don't know to even attempt to guess what really happened.

The thread title looks like it was produced by a provocative thread title generator, and yet it's an actual news story. Bizarre.

AgaPanthers - that's good. Important to kee on the tail of stuff like this.

I do think the kids, if old enough, would be key witnesses, actually, (and sadly) and I have had children in a school innocently tell me the most incriminating things about their parents.

It sounds terrible, but the badge is irrelevant. Even if I saw such a badge I wouldn't know what it meant. This is the first time I've heard of them.

What does the badge indicate? That this is someone to be wary of because they might lose control?

Calamitous - LOL. Do you not think that a hairdresssers is a little too neutral / innocuous though?

It could have been a McDonalds, or a primary school or something?

And there is no sad face.

Must check to see if the DM manage to interview the hairdresser.

I've never heard of such a badge either, and my son is autistic.

A few on Google though: www.google.co.uk/search?q=autism+badge&tbm=isch

Something along those lines I guess.

Why have the standard put 'autistic' in scare quotes in the headline?

What on earth has the price of her car got to do with anything? Bizarre post.

Charm: You're right. It should have been a nursery or children's play park or a care home for maximum effect.

It's not all guesswork Sparkling. There were eyewitnesses.

oh I see. I thought the badge was something issued by a health trust or something. Like a hazard warning. It sounded quite odd.

I am not up on models of Audi but it rang a MN bell. It was because of this thread. Seems the model of car is 'at tank' then.

As there's a picture I think it's safe to safe that's not speculation.

Or 'a tank' even.

Sorry Fid, I am just wary of what newspapers write.

The kicking was a threat. It was the threat of a man against a woman and children. I didn't say he tried to kill them or that he physically harmed them (and kicking a car is nothing compared to trying to run someone over), but it was a threat. How is kicking someone's car when they're in it not threatening behaviour? Autism is not an excuse for making threats.

Finding it pretty funny that as always, a bunch of do-gooders (let me guess - mothers of autistic sons? Or maybe you just met someone once and now it's your pet cause) defend the violent autistic man against the online accusations of someone who is also not neurotypical, for being so discriminatory and not knowing what it's like. Sorry, I wasn't wearing my badge?

She definitely should have left it, I'm not arguing that. But not because he has autism, because she should have anyway.

I think the real problem here is that a person driving a car purposefully attempted to hit a person riding a bicycle (if the article is accurate). The make of the car & the disability of the cyclist do not really make the incident more or less awful (and I say this as the mother of an autistic DS) - people in cars should not be trying to hit anyone or anything with that car! Badge or no badge!

The fact that the cyclist is autistic is more likely to mean that he will never fully recover from this woman's actions though. If this had happened to my DS1, I very much doubt he would ever get on a bike again.

The autism is also relevant to the cyclists behaviour because an autistic person cannot always physically control their anger in the way that others can. It's not relevant to how the driver acted though - if the story is entirely true as reported she certainly should never drive any vehicle ever again.

Sorry Fid, I am just wary of what newspapers write.

Well that's understandable