Missing Malaysian Airlines MH-370 - Thread 6

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There are no phone masts in the Indian Ocean so there would be no signal. Think about when your In parts of the uk like outstanding beauty spots where you can't get service because there's no masts.

There appear to be a few posters on here who are relatively new to the threads. The mobile phone issue was discussed at length in the initial threads and goldie gave up in the end re-iterating that:

PASSENGERS COULD NOT HAVE USED THEIR MOBILE PHONES ON THAT FLIGHT.
That they did not, is NOT weird or odd, but only to be expected.

It's not as if they are impartial

The link you gave appears to be to a discrete US-spin off company, dealing solely with military telecoms. The work on the plane has been done by Inmarsat proper, at the HQ in London, with a range of academic, government and aviation partners. It's not been an IGO for a few years, but there's still involvement from a wide range of governments and international organisations, and they do a lot of free maritime safety work as well. It's not SPECTRE. It's hardly shadowy either - it's the biggest, ugliest building on the Old Street roundabout!

The orange things they found were bits of fishing equipment.
From an Australian perspective (where I live) this is a hugely expensive exercise. Our Prime Minister adores anything military so he is very happy to stride about next to defence personnel.
www.abc.net.au/news/2014-03-31/malaysia-airlines-mh370-orange-objects-fishing-equipment/5357476

The Inmarsat data was also reviewed by the likes of the NTSB & FAA, that was why there was a delay between it being handed over to Malaysia and it being made public.

I don't think Inmarsat is shadowy at all!

Why didn't Goldie ever come back? Perhaps all this talk of mobiles exasperated her so much that she couldn't be bothered! Tis a shame though.

I think Goldie was great on the techie data stuff, but maybe she now thinks the answers will never be found.

I think whoever was behind this intended it would never be found which makes the tinfoil hats multiply!! I think that's all we really have left, unfortunately!

What's in it for Inmarsat - The US Defence department is their biggest client. They have just appointed a retired US defence bigshot, who is still a senior advisor to the White House, to their board.

The Inmarsat data was also reviewed by the likes of the NTSB & FAA, that was why there was a delay - Yes: a two-day delay, during which nothing new was found in the data. The achieved output of this 48-hour expert consultation was a diagram.

I've got nothing against Inmarsat. I just don't like people assuming pure motives on the part of all the players in a mysterious scenario involving big money and defence issues.

And the data has still not been released

I think pretty much all large satellite companies will deal with military/governments as key markets (Mrs Miggins from no. 42 not having much need for a satellite phone or location data) and that many Western satellite companies will deal with the US government/military - it being so big.

So for a company both to be able to gather this data AND to not have any contracts with military or government is highly unlikely ie whosever satellite it was, the same accusations of bias could probably have been made.

Yes, of course, Doctrine.

Perhaps I haven't clarified that I'm not suspecting Inmarsat of having initiated any skullduggery. Sometimes businesses have to go along with what their markets want.

I guess I see the collaboration with Cranfield and the checking with the AAIB as further evidence against skulduggery, but I think we are in friendly disagreement on this

This may be helpful:

"On Monday, Mr Hussein said the government would soon hold a briefing for those families to update them on the search for MH370, which would include international experts to explain the research, data and methodology used in the operation.

The briefing would also be broadcast live to other families in Beijing, he said."

Goldie hasn't posted on MN at all of late - I don't think it's personal

Malaysia now confirm wording of last words from MH370 after reports from CCTV's James Chau over the weekend claimed they were different to what had previously been released

[[https://twitter.com/jameschau/status/450638745339850753/photo/1 here]]

Surely "Goodnight, Malaysian 370" is perfectly normal?

Given the shroud of silence over this whole thing, it's annoying that the correction of a rare detail has only been made 23 days later! Who is misinforming whom?

I think so Garlic; it was James Chau is an anchor on Chinese TV & was reporting these were the words over the weekend; guess he's saying Malaysia have let us think the last voice contact said "All right, goodnight" so what else are they being less than candid about?

www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=744883348890014&id=178566888854999

Latest Facebook update.

"so what else are they being less than candid about?"

Maybe they were still checking if this was a "normal" phrase for the co-pilot and it was sensible not to correct the press until they had done so?

Maybe it wasn't that high priority regarding the press compared to the data analysis etc?

That's a nice update, Doctrine. His releases are getting better. I still don't envy the guy!

Not disagreeing with you Doctrine, surmising how this will be looked upon by the Chinese/press in particular in the absence of other news to report

"I still don't envy the guy!"

Yy to this!

Nothing new but quite a good summary from the BBC - seems they still don't know if it's pilot or co pilot.

"Malaysian authorities have issued a new version of the last communication between air traffic control and the cockpit of the missing flight MH370.

The last words spoken were "Good night Malaysian three seven zero" - and not "all right, good night" as reported.

The transport ministry said forensic investigations would determine whether the pilot or co-pilot spoke the words.

The plane, carrying 239 people, was travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing when it disappeared on 8 March.

The plane's last contact took place at 01:19 Malaysian time.

The BBC's transport correspondent Richard Westcott says the new version of the last words is more formal and more in keeping with the way a pilot might usually speak to air traffic control than the wording previously reported.

It is not clear why it has changed or why it has taken the authorities this long to determine this, he says."

I cannot understand how something so straightforward can have been reported wrongly! It just makes you doubt everything - that sign off isn't desperately important so what about the important stuff?

in a way i think their biggest mistake has been to pretend they were being transparent. as in if, from the start, they'd said 'we can't release all details.... what we are able to say....' etc it wouldn't all seem so dubious.

instead there have been denials that then turn out to be true, things given as true that turn out not to be etc.

www.straitstimes.com/the-big-story/missing-mas-plane/story/malaysia-says-theres-sealed-evidence-mh370-cannot-be-made-publ

"BEIJING - A Malaysian team have told relatives of Chinese passengers on board the missing Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 that there was sealed evidence that cannot be made public, as they came under fire from the angry relatives at a briefing on Wednesday.

The sealed evidence included air traffic control radio transcript, radar data and airport security recordings."