Missing Malaysia Airlines MH370 - Thread 5

[KenAdams]

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basically for whatever reason we are have been led on a wild goose chase of misinformation and in the process everyone has made clear what they would like to believe, what they feel is plausible, etc and hey presto that will be the version that comes out.

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I think they've been reading our threads!

malaysian ineptitude is the fall guy if they don't pin it on a 'suicidal pilot' (how unlucky that he was a muslim fundamentalist who once went to pakistan).

that should say wasn't a fundamentalist!

Heh, Badger, I bet you can guess how close I've often come to compiling that! It would take up the pathetically few hours of my time that I don't spend re-checking information about this tragic mystery

From the same graphic, Doctrine :-
[5] From [NW Malaysia] the plane possibly flew North, registering on a system used by commercial flights inside Thai airspace.
[6] The plane was possibly last tracked heading NW at 2:15am. That route is used by carriers to fly toward Europe.

Additionally, there is the reported possible distress call received in Thailand. Plus, Thailand "refused" to say whether its own military radar had picked up MH370. And there were multiple reported visual sightings of an airliner flying very low over the Andamans and the Thai coast at that time.

But NONE of this matters, because IT WENT SOUTH, you hear?! That means none of the above happened, and it went somewhere that is sparsely observed. Conveniently.

"They" have steered the conclusion towards blaming the pilot all along.

"They" have manipulated information to fit the story they want to write.

Somebody deliberately doing this, going mad/suicidal whilst flying a plane, explains away the erratic route, and gives a "tidy" conclusion.

But imagine if a distress call was made? It's a fly in the ointment, because it blows their theory apart.

Easy enough for the US to say no, we never said that. Silly old Chinese getting their stories mixed up.

"why/how in post 9/11 world would a plane that disappears and is seen by military radar just be allowed to fly around up there - that to me is utter bs -"

IIRC, it wasn't seen on military radar " live", it was noticed when radar was checked.

I'm sure the default when a plane goes offline is to assume either a crash or a comms failure, not to assume it's gone rogue: I'm sure that will change now, just as it now seems bonkers that people could get into the cockpit once upon a time.

Don't think we're going to agree here garlic and it's bedtime for me!

Night all - hopefully the debris will be found soon and the black box recorder tracked.

How would the Chinese know if the U.S military base picked up a distress call at U-Tapao at 2:43am? If it's a false flag attack but Chinese intelligence has intercepted their communications and is currently analysing those this is going to backfire massively on any participants. Haven't looked at the photoshopped Iranians yet but it's entirely possible they were offered those passports and genuinely thought they were just immigrating illegally. But those possibly organising this planned to blame them all along. Like hiring naive young people through intelligence to participate/play a role in counter-terror military simulations and then making them the perpetrators for the real thing.

Garlic but here's the thing. The thing that has bothered me all along.

There is no comment anywhere, no denial of the story, no reporting of the story, except a few lines in the china Times, the day after the plane disappeared, right at the beginning of all this.

Now with all the speculation, false leads etc, every media outlet across the globe has jumped on each scrap of information be it credible or not. So this little nugget should at least have warranted a line or two elsewhere. Maybe the US don't want everyone to know that they are sat there in Thailand listening to everything that goes on in that region.

Mimi the "story" came from a source at the US embassy in Beijing.

Yes, it bothers me that this supposed leak went almost unremarked - in English, anyhow. (I should have done that Chinese course I started!) I'd quite like to know if any of the US Embassy staff in Beijing have very recently left their job or been unexpectedly posted to Mongolia/Belarus/PNG!

Link

redd.it/1zx8m5

I want to know if anyone was scheduled to be on that flight and then didn't board.

Initially it was reported that 5 people did not board and that their bags were offloaded from the plane.

Then that story got dismissed as well

I have to say I am seriously worried about flying with my two small children next week and I'm never scared to fly

Wonder why U-Tapao at 2:43am call has not been denied or confirmed Downton ?

I want to know if anyone was scheduled to be on that flight and then didn't board.

How about two that weren't scheduled, but did? The Austrian & Italian whose passports were stolen did not book on that flight, but they were on the manifest. The Iranians travelling on the stolen passports used their own ID to fly into KL, then got on the Beijing plane with the fakes. Who booked those seats in the fake names? Did the pair take the two flights individually (ie, checked out & back in at KL) or was the entire trip booked as one ticket (transferred within KL), meaning somebody fiddled the booking system?

I've been reading the Malaysian pilots' forum but am only a few pages in, and have to go to bed. I've done hardly anything today other than catch up on this news. I need to cut back

"“Someone would have tried to communicate with the ground and someone would have got through.” Such as...? The only way to communicate with the ground would be through the cockpit, which is locked – even cabin crew don’t have access to the cockpit without the flight crew letting them in. So if the cockpit is locked with either the pilot or the co pilot on the other side having killed the other and steering the plane in their direction of choice there is no other way to communicate with the ground.

As has been stated numerous times, mobile phones don’t work at 35000 feet, or over the ocean. So who exactly would you be expecting to communicate with the ground?

As for the alleged distress call, does no-one find it odd that this has only been reported by the Chinese who have the most victims on board?

And still no-one has said what exactly it is they think the world’s governments are covering up. The fact that a plane disappeared without a trace? Well as I said before, most likely no-one wants to cause hysteria by implying that a pilot can just take an aeroplane at will and do whatever they like with it. Or more likely it’s that the majority of people were until now of the opinion that all planes are tracked at all times, and this unprecedented disappearance of a plane has proven that this is in fact not the case.

Mr McLoughlin (Senior VP of Inmarstat) must be rubbing his hands at the rocketing share prices of the company.

Yep. It's all business as usual.

Well now we all know the billions we've spent on developing surveillance after 9/11 is apparently of no use if the plane flies 'too low' below cruising altitude. Hmmm.. Do I for one second believe that? Well, I do know that much of the money hasn't gone to it's stated purpose.