Missing Malaysia Air plane MH370 - Part 3

[KenAdams]

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And in same article Kazakhstan saying it was impossible for their radar not to detect a plane (believable given their close ties to Russia and their military) and Pakistan saying they have analysed their radar and nothing has come up.

Specifically:

'Kazakhstan's civil aviation authority told the BBC it was not possible for the plane to have reached its airspace undetected – noting it would have had to fly over China, India and other countries – while Pakistan's civil aviation authority said checks of its radar recordings found nothing connected to the flight.'

Does seem a bit far fetched to me too that semi conscious they made all those seemingly nefarious decisions?

So other mysterious aircraft disasters have happened and could have similar happenings to this one:

the previous night after a romantic jaunt in Brazil with his girlfriend.

Helios Airways Flight 522

On August 14, 2005, air traffic controllers in Greece lost contact with Helios Airways Flight 522, but the plane remained in the holding pattern for Athens Airport for more than an hour. At one point, a Greek fighter jet was scrambled, and spotted the pilot slumped over the controls. Around half an hour later the plane started to descend, crashing into the hills near Grammatiko, killing all 121 passengers and crew (the deadliest air disaster in Greek history). An investigation revealed that a gradual loss of cabin pressure had left the crew incapacitated

I couldn't find any information about the Taliban being involved though I wouldn't be entirely surprised.

"But what on earth would be the point of getting an airliner to land there, complete with passengers and crew, and then not tell anyone they had it"

I would have thought that China (and us?) would retaliate sparking off a whole new series of events in an already very volatile area. that thought actually rather worries me.

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If I could pull out the relevant stuff from earlier threads it would show that the mystery plane disappearances are not relevant here, and pilots being sick or cabins being depressurised or loss of oxygen is not viable. I'm on my phone so can't.

It would be easy to think that. But it isn't. Whether it's a hijack, suicide or whatever this has been caused by foul play.

Here is an article about the Taliban theory.

Not too sure how trusted the source is though:

www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/flight-mh370/57641/flight-mh370-plane-may-have-landed-taliban-territory

Livingzuid I would mostly agree from the little I have heard, but what is the one or main reason that it definitely couldn't be any form of accident?

Because they have proof that the plane continued flying for up to seven hours after last contact. It there was a chance of mechanical failure they would have said so but they have not. It was ruled out days ago.

What they don't know is who or why. Or maybe they do and are not saying. But this was a deliberate act.

It's in the threads and various articles, news reports and press releases both online and on this link. We even have an aviation expert who has kindly commented on many of the theories and explained technical things to us.

Thread even not link. It's not me saying this, but the Malaysian government. No theory but the few facts we do know.

In the unlikely event that the plane has landed in Taliban territory. It wouldn't be surprising that they have not yet made contact. It may be a test to see how long it takes the authorities to locate the plane.

Would it not be more fuel efficient to fly in another plane's slipstream? In that theory is correct then MH370 could have gone further than current estimates.

Thinking of things that can act as a runway. Wide road?

Also thinking of how much technology you need on the ground to land a plane with no working transponder. Land manually by sight? Can a landing be preprogrammed into the computer navigation system and would work without a transponder?

If the passengers are alive and in Afghanistan (yes, unlikely) they will want to move them around the area, probably keeping them in a number of different places far apart, so as to make it harder for ground troops to track them down. The longer they have to do this, the better.

Goldie's already said about runways in the previous thread, basically they have to be extra strong reinforced concrete for a heavy plane like a 777, a grass landing strip or tarmac road wouldn't cut it, and the landing gear would cut into the surface. Think of the pics of the 2008 Heathrow crash, the plane collapsed on its belly and made mincemeat of the grassy area short of the runway. It has to be a strengthened runway and at least a mile long.

While it is from an A380, I've found video very interesting in terms of what happens in a cockpit. (My son loves planes so we've watched this a lot!)

somewhere look for goldie's posts on this for a better explanation. There is certain criteria for landing a 777 intact if you want to use it again otherwise the landing gear is destroyed. Also it must be a certain length.

No idea whether a road would work, possible though if it could take the weight of the plane and was wide enough?

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They know what happened. They're figuring out the cover story aren't they? I'm surprised it's taking so long. Presumably other factors have come into play. I honestly don't think a plane has vanished.

I've been glued to this story for well over a week now and

Hmm thanks Kale. Hard to keep up with the amount of material on these threads! Trying to get a feel for just how unlikely it is that a landing spot could be constructed ... Seems a bit more likely to have landed at a previously unknown airstrip than at an existing airport...

For all you know, this may be more about the passengers than the plane. Imagine the leverage they would have with over 200 people, from a number of different countries.

In your opinion, if this had happened in a western country, would a terror alert have been issued? State of emergency? Or nothing re national security. (indeed, authorities saying how much the search has compromised national security as all 'assets' out)?

I think they know more too. Well I hope so. For them to be so blind is otherwise very scary.