Missing MH370 thread cont...

[Pennies]

Old thread here

New thread here.

Woah, just how disgusting must those toilets have been to have been diverted! Yeeeuch!

The footage of the relatives on BBC is very harrowing. They must be so tired by now.

How long will the search last with no results? (how long is a piece of string I guess)

Second the suggestion for goldie to start thread #3 :)
If she doesnt mind, that is

Surely they would have to have malfunctioned as I've see the cabin crew cleaning toilets many times on flights before!

I agree that Goldie should start the next thread... but can we wait for her to get home from work?

Good idea for Goldie to start it

If the toilet malfunctioned they would divert it? Are there no other toilets?!

Would it be way too tinfoilhat-ish to suggest that unclean toilets sounds a bit too much like a fib...?

I don't know Beyond, probably. But... It is probably a lot of peoples knee jerk reaction under the circs!

It is a bloody long flight though

Uncleaned may mean blocked if the previous tanks weren't emptied or something.

It has also emerged the pilot's wife and three children moved out of the family home the day before the Beijing-bound plane disappeared, carrying 239 people on board.

Hmm a protest could make sense I suppose...

I think the pilot is the victim of a smear campaign. If I lived in Malaysia, I might also think that Anwar is better than the anti democratic alternative, regardless of my job.

Chances are still good he's the hero of this piece and averted a greater tragedy. Please let's not forget that before we have definitive answers.

As planes fly on great circles surely Iceland wasn't too far off course anyway?

The source for that story Achyfox was the UK Mirror, not primary sources, and they have published sloppy and inaccurate stories on this event.

Although I'd have thought that if the toilets were that bad they'd have landed in Canada. We're always getting shit from the States.

Although I'd have thought that if the toilets were that bad they'd have landed in Canada. We're always getting shit from the States

^^ LOL

lessons

Yes, there's no elaboration either .

moose

at Moose.

I did this yesterday and it helped me clarify things, so I'll redo the list of potential likely outcomes excluding ones which appear to have now been ruled out.

1. Hijack by Uighur militants/disaffected Malaysian opposition protesters/unannounced others - passengers who broke into the cabin and flight crew killed/disabled by them

1. One or more of flight crew part of the conspiracy of hijack

Outcomes of either 1 or 2

a) land on land somewhere with or without pilot/flight crew in on it, Inmarsat link still pinging away (highly unlikely IMO); or...
b) pilot not involved but ditched the plane before it would be used for some other nefarious act; or...
c) it was botched and the plane crashed (by far the most likely outcome afaik)

I think we have ruled out

3. catastrophic failure of the aircraft due to mechanical failure
4. stealing the aircraft for GOLD! or some other exciting cargo

In the unlikely but not impossible camp (but would need one hell of a lot of explaining):

5. cargo causing fire and then plane failure.

For anyone just reading this thread for the first time - no, it's not suspicious that people on board couldn't contact loved ones via phone or text - plane was out of reach of mobile signal, if you want more info, read back some.

Room sorry but no, it's not possible afaik to triangulate from one satellite. I am saying this from a lot of info assimilated from Goldie and PPRuNe.

room

Imagine a pebble dropped into a pond and the ripples from that. The 'pebble' is the satellite which is up in space. it receives a ping from a ripple that's a certain distance away. all it can tell you is what distance the ripple is, not where on the ripple the ping came from.

then the 'ripple circle' is superimposed with the 'range circle' which is 3000 miles flight from the last known location of the flight, this rules out a lot of the ripple. what remains are the northern and southern arcs you mention.

What I'd like to know is all 14-15 data points from Inmarsat, one every half hour.

They only show the arc associated with the last transmission.

Achyfox there's so much misinformation and poor reporting on this, it's almost impossible to tell what is really going on. Daily Telegraph and Guardian appear to have reporters on the ground who are speaking to Malaysian and US sources, the Beeb is rereporting other news sources information. The Daily Fail appears to have some good sources but is massively sensationalising what small pieces of information they are getting. The Mirror appears to be picking up on the crappier information available to the Fail and reporting it as gospel. The Wall Street Journal appears to be the official source of leaks from the American investigation, who are using it as a channel to embarrass the Malaysians into revealing information they are anxious about sharing before it's verified. The Sydney Morning Herald appears to also have a source fairly senior in the Malaysian investigation, but not in the American one.

Clear as mud, innit.

And Garths that is a brilliant explanation.