Missing MH370 thread cont...

[Pennies]

Old thread here

New thread here.

[livingzuid]

We are on thread 4 now :)

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2029282-Missing-Malaysia-Airlines-MH370-Thread-4

[ZingSweetCoconut]

Thanks!

Is there a "safe height" crew could open it though, if needed?

[totallyuseless]

Zing, yes but I didnt know if the 777 has a safety mechanism to prevent the door being opened in flight.


The door is sealed during flight due to the vacuum effect.

[TheDoctrineOfSnatch]

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/2027669-Missing-Malaysia-Air-plane-MH370-Part-3

[MoreBeta]

I guess ships sink without trace so I suppose a plane can.

[ZingSweetCoconut]

What other thread?

[TheDoctrineOfSnatch]

Folks, Goldie is on the other thread now...

[ZingSweetCoconut]

ah, I see, sorry.

My guess is that it is possible, but best to wait till Goldie turns up, she'll know!

[VivaLeBeaver]

Zing, yes but I didnt know if the 777 has a safety mechanism to prevent the door being opened in flight.

[NewLisaLife]

I'm still boggled how an aeroplane of that size can just 'disappear' with all those people on board :(

[ZingSweetCoconut]

Viva

you have to open a door whatever height you jump from - unless jumping from a hot air balloon.

so that's no problem either

[ZingSweetCoconut]

ex-parachuter here,so yes, 5000 ft is no problem at all

soldiers jump with self-opening parachutes (round type) from as little height as 350m which is just under 1150 feet.

1000m (3280 feet) is a very safe height, when I was a beginner we did this over and over again, 10 secs free fall then open.

but I doubt they had that many (if any!) parachutes

[VivaLeBeaver]

You can definitely parachute jump from 5000ft. You'd normally do it higher than this but its doable. How easy it is from a 777 I have no idea. Don't know how possible it is to open a door while flying, etc. I thought I read on previous thread that it isn't.

[Contrarian78]

I really really really hope that the plane and all of the passengers turn up safe and well. The only better scenario is if it transpires that the pilot took a detour to get a McDonalds chicken mayo burger for 99p

[hellymelly]

Cyberjacking? Blimey. That is about the most frightening theory so far.

[tiaramasu]

I linked to cyberjacking somewhere up thread.
Personally, I think that may have happened.
There doesnt seem to have been obvious passenger issues. And the place seems to have been diverted deliberately.
I have wondered for a while, now that there is drone technology, just how long it would be before an ordinary plane could be tampered with, without the person even being on the plane.

And that is a potential huuuge problem for the aviation industry imo.

[AchyFox]

R4 World at One has been discussing the possibility of cyberjacking -- that the plane was somehow hijacked electronically.

An example was cited that a US drone was spoofed by GPS into landing at an Iranian airstrip!

[GarlicMarchHare]

Trout - Flying at 45,000 feet wouldn't cause hypoxia. It would possibly put a strain on the aircraft, but unlikely to be serious. Flying at 5,000 is a radar evasion technique. Yes, people could leave the plane at 5,000 feet.

Multiple, sudden altitude changes would seem to point towards a struggle on the flight deck. Protracted flying at 5,000 indicates an experienced pilot who knows what they're doing.

Could have been a struggle followed by successful execution of 'the plan', whatever that was. Altitude data is still being analysed, as far as we know.

[LoopyDoopyDoo]

This is a good article about the pilot's political views for the uninitiated. His political stance is totally mainstream here (many might say the majority, but the ballots... well, that's a different story).

[meditrina]

Thanks, nicknacks.

And my apologies all round for repeating an error (I am trying to keep up with the thread, but didn't retain that bit).

[Burmahere]

Ah yes I do vaguely recall Goldie saying as much about possible lock-out not being possible. Such a lot of information to read and digest.

[livingzuid]

Just posted this on the new thread too if you aren't there yet - the last message to air traffic control Malaysian Airlines thinks was the co-pilot.

www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26610946

[ClifftopCafe]

Agree - all of the changes in altitude etc might point to that - someone was trying to overpower someone else?

[themaltesefalcon]

I also believe that it stands to reason that at least one of the pilots now having their lives raked over by the media was, in fact, a hero.

[NickNacks]

meditrina Goldie stated earlier that a pilot couldn't be locked out of the cockpit - wouldn't say how but just that it wasn't possible. I guess he could have fallen ill or injured though.