Missing MH370 thread cont...

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No, north Korea would can't afford to fanny around with the Chinese.

Marking place.

All the theories are horrendous for those involved. Passengers 'off loaded' at the lower altitude? Then up to the most fuel efficient altitude with whatever cargo or person were the target. Or high chance it's just a 'look what we can do, worldwide you are all scared? Aren't you going to change your lifestyles because of us and our cause'
It's all haunting, I've been thinking about it all day. Those poor passengers and relatives.

But who is the 'we'? That's where it all falls down - lack of claims of resposibility.
If they were terrorists then they must have had some plan to claim responsibility, otherwise we are just left in our current state - guessing at what has happened.

if it was terrorism, a group would have claimed responsibility by now.

If it was a group of hijackers, they would have revealed themselves too by now.

So the only explanation I can find is that the plane is no more, either through accident, or an individual's actions.

But how could they offload passengers at a low altitude and contiue to fly ? Wouldn't any doors opening make the plane crash ?

Can it not be because of those 20 electronics experts?

Either some of them involved, or they have been captured and interrogated?

Someone patiently watching the search and enjoying it? Uncertainty is very difficult to feel with. Very unsettling and you can't move on. Someone/s might be deliberately keeping quiet at present to heighten the anxiety?? Just speculating.

It is like a James Bond plot where a mountain-side opens up and the plane flies in and vanishes.

If the plane had been shot down (which I think is a very likely possibility), wouldn't the terrorists (if it had originally been hijacked) be jumping up and down saying 'look what your own governments do to civilian planes'?

doing something like this to 'scare' people just plays into western governments hands and justifies further and further infringements on civil liberties and privacy. empty scare tactics are more likely western fabricated than terrorist engineered imo.

either it was terrorists and they had a target but were intercepted and shot down or it was the pilot, they assumed terrorists and shot down and have since found out his wife left and for all we know gone searched the house and found drugs and alcohol and signs of having lost the plot.

the climbing and dropping and climbing again fits more with a pilot trying to alert authorities that something has gone wrong such as in a hijack than a pilot suddenly losing the plot.

don't know.

i'm not buying the terrorist thing tbh.

I've commented above about why I don't think the timelines for planning an operation of this complexity and the targeting of one group of passengers would not work.

Also, although the company does have end products used by the military, the firm does much more than that: eg "our key applications and end-markets include automotive safety, hybrid and all-electric vehicles, next generation wireless infrastructure, smart energy management, portable medical devices, consumer appliances and smart mobile devices."

The missing Freescale staff appear to be locally employed in Malaysia and China. Would anyone expect them to be engaged on senstive projects (which are surely uS-based and staffed by US citizens?)

Just speculating about the pilot ... It's known that he's the kind of guy who isn't satisfied with shagging the air & ground crew but has, at least once, chosen to hand-pick pretty girls out of the boarding queue for flirty company on the flight deck, against regulations. Aviation tends to attract risk-seekers. Despite regular psych checkups, quite a few pilots are narcissists (who can have spectacular disturbances from time to time) and fewer have untreated bi-polar on long cycles, with the manic part of their disorder provoking the risk-seeking. There's a high incidence of alcoholism and other drug abuse. Don't ask me how I know about this, it's a long story!

The pilot in question could have had a god-like episode, where he decided to do something utterly irrational that seemed sane & feasible to him. Or he could have been flattered & manipulated into taking part in an astonishing crime, believing it would grant him riches & glory. I know there are checks and balances in place, which empower crew members to contain a colleague who's gone off the rails. But I don't know how well they work in practice if needed.

I kind of assumed the Australian blonde told her story to illustrate the pilot's a bit of a loose cannon. If the plane's "never found", though, he will make an obvious fall-guy whatever really happened. So - er, this speculation's a bit pointless, really

hhmmm - so im still worried about the fact that an aircraft could have been flown to somewhere remote to be refuelled and then another twin towers scenarios.

I know other posters have said that such a plane would be shot down by the military but in the UK - we're not that big a country and the window for shooting down a plane coming from the north on the way to London ends somewhere around york.

it'd be spotted a long time before it got to york simL!

more likely it's target was in malasia or indonesia given it turned IF this was a terrorist incident.

It's not about being spotted Badger - its about how many minutes they would have to mount a defence between a hostile plane entering UK airspace and it reaching London. if it's past York

next generation wireless infrastructure - Some of the techy passengers were showing off a new bit of kit to the others, it buggered up the plane's systems, and the US shot it down?

I'll get me coat ...

I really don't see the landing/re-fuelling as a possibility - to do that out of sight of radar/satellite imaging would seem near impossible.

Also, to get anywhere near the UK (as an example target), it would have to pass through so much airspace undetected. I can't see how that could happen now the whole world is on high-alert.

i meant it would have been spotted a hell of a lot sooner than when it reached uk airspace. there's a lot of airspace between there and the uk and the whole world is on the lookout for this thing.

But surely if you wanted to kidnap a group of 20 engineers, you would take them on their coach, at their hotel, hell, even at their workplace.

yeah but if it mingled in with a very busy flight path, would it be noticed? like the earlier poster said about hiding an elephant in a herd

I don't think it's being hidden somewhere as a weapon, I think it's sadly crashed somewhere over the sea, due to pilot.

If you are a pilot and you want to commit suicide, surely you get over water and nose dive. Why would you need to turn back and then turn again?

If you are hijacking a plane, surely you do not steer it into a deep and vast ocean, you have a destination in mind and you go there.

So...maybe the pilot has intercepted a hijacking and turned the plane away from land so as to keep casualties to a minimum.

yep. I think we have some hidden heroes.

I'm struggling to see why a suicidal pilot would commit suicide whilst flying a plane, surely he would use another method?!

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