Missing MH370 thread cont...

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Thanks for the no-nonsense explanations Goldie. You have really helped a lot of us understand technical information.

I have just read that the pilots wife and 3 children moved out of the family home the day before the flight. Although how true that is nobody knows.

The passengers working for Freescale Semiconductor have worried me from first reading about it. I couldn't get my head round how they could be involved as the company specialises in radar and military defence etc. However a friend suggested last night that maybe their technical knowhow on fuel free cars was what the hijackers were after.

Not sure what I think now other than there is a lot that we are not being told.

Oh, and what Nonny said - xposts.

Badger
that's what I think as well.

That's what DH said when we chatted about it. It's not something I am unfamiliar with (military background), and hence saying probably completely innocuous, it did make me ? a bit but also makes sense; I think it being on there makes it ? And that's the coincidence side - he did that, and something has happened to him

coffee it has to be doesn't it? they wouldn't just let the plane continue without responding. maybe there's a lot of international discussion going on about how to present this to public - that military policy is to shoot on passenger aircraft where needs be and that this isn't in theory anymore but for real.

is it fear of announcing 'we shot a whole planeful of people out of the sky without securing communications to verify intent?

I have been thinking this from the beginning, Badger. US military have something of a record for shooting the wrong things. (Which is not to say other militias don't.)

i'd say searching the pilots home so late could make sense now if they had assumed terrorism then found out that his wife had just left him - looking for suicide note?

What was that about,when the Oz wife told the world that her husband had left his wedding ring,and watch,with her, in case anything happened to him. She opened the floodgates,by saying that she thought the authorities were hiding 'stuff'.

I posted something similar up thread.
It's the only thing that makes some sense to me.

they're not going to tell us though are they?

they're going to go with the hmm they must have gone south on that corridor and run out of fuel and crashed into the ocean and now with it being so long there can be no chance of finding wreckage (unless it's conveniently found where they want it to be found).

because people with the wits to hijack a plane and fly it really are likely to be stupid enough to then fly it in a direction that has nowhere to land without enough fuel to get anywhere

it's a million times worse PR wise if it turns out it was a suicidal pilot who just wanted to fly around and they shot it out of the sky assuming terrorist attack only to later discover his wife had just walked out on him. the idea that you could be shot out of the sky if a pilot has a wobbly is even more unnerving than being shot out of the sky because you've been hijacked by terrorists.

there's no way we're going to be told the real story on this one imo.

Thanks for all the informed opinion. This is grimly compelling. The poor, poor people and their families.
I am intrigued by the choice of route, if the plot was hijacking with intent to land somewhere west of Malaysia. Why did they choose the Beijing-bound route and waste fuel and risk early detection by heading east then re-routing to fly back over the Malaysian peninsula? I'm sure MA flies Europe-bound night flights out of KL with similarly lax security that would be more appropriate choices for this plan. Which leads me to think it was something specific about this flight: the pilot complicit/blackmailed/bribed, the Chinese nationals, the gold?
If it has been established practice to fly gold out of KL to China on this route there would have been time more to plan this than say waiting for a target individual to book his/her ticket.
Musings of a totally uninformed person. Apologies if way off the mark.

I saw on Pprune that flying through Myanmar (Bhurma) could avoid being detected on military radar.

It seems ridiculous that an unidentified plane could fly over land without being spotted though- especially as India, China and the US have military bases in the area. So either they weren't watching (embarrassing lack of security), or they were watching and took some action which they can't yet reveal (diplomatic consequences and terrifying people).

I suppose the plane could have snuck through areas with patchy/no radar coverage and landed somewhere. It wouldn't be revealed to the world if there were negotiations going on, or a sensitive defence situation.

It makes less and less sense as time goes on!

Why would a suicidal pilot, with so much experience fly the plane so erratically? Wouldn't it be easier just to take a nose dive? Poor passengers and crew.

It's hard to pull off a conspiracy if lots of people know about it. Would anyone be capable of inserting false data into variously owned satellites and radar systems? And so quickly? I doubt the US has any 'in' into INMARSAT, or at least not without the French knowing all about it.

Or would the shooting down have followed the sequence of confirmed events, with a group of perpetrators hoping that no new data emerges? Especially as there is a huge unch of experts of various nationalities telling the Malasian government what data should exist and where to look for it.

Now, there may be all sorts of garbage reaching the public as the media tries to circumvent the sole official line of investigation and pick on and analyse endlessly every single word uttered by any official whatsoever. And although confusion may seem like a good place to 'hide', in this case and when dealing with scientists and engineers, I'm not so sure.

they turn off transponders at airports too according to the C5 programme, due to 200 planes' transponders all chirruping together would be rather confusing

weird to wonder what will happen next.. agree the worst thing could be never knowing

This is very interesting and thanks to Goldie for providing facts when there are so few.

Has anyone mentioned India? Could this have been anything to do with their election? I don't know enough to imagine what but the Indian Airforce could have shot it down.

Other than that I've no idea but will br following this.

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One thing with the idea of it being shot down though - why wouldnt the authorities just confirm that a terrorist had crashed it/blown it up? Either they'll get away with it (chance still stands now if its never found) or they'll be found out and in trouble for covering it up (as also still stands now, if someone else finds it). Either way, they are not gaining anything by pretending to know nothing.

Unless (answering my own question...) the lack of searching in the 'right' area was so the offenders could clear away the debris...? Hmm...

Hmm,
good point, Beyond

Didn't the plane divert once it crossed into Vietnamese airspace? Who would know that precise cross-over,apart from the pilot?

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One thing with the idea of it being shot down though - why wouldnt the authorities just confirm that a terrorist had crashed it/blown it up? Either they'll get away with it (chance still stands now if its never found) or they'll be found out and in trouble for covering it up (as also still stands now, if someone else finds it). Either way, they are not gaining anything by pretending to know nothing.

But massive questions would be raised about their security and the security of the country that the plane departed from- it starts a whole web of lies and cover ups that must be too risky?

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Is North Korea within range?
They have nuclear weapons but no reliable delivery system for those weapons.