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Missing Malaysia Air plane

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KenAdams · 08/03/2014 09:47

It's so sad. They still haven't found anything, but thinks it's crashed into the sea.

For anyone that hasn't heard

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PublicEnemyNumeroUno · 14/03/2014 21:33

I'm swaying towards decompression (or whatever its called)

I know they have to look into every lead but i just keep thinking 'they keep posting pics of the co pilot and the guys with stolen passports who could be completely innocent and are probably dead as a result of whatever has happened, and its just awful, as bad as it sounds i hope it was just an accident and we find out what has happened so these people can have their names cleared.

ClownsLeftJokersRight · 14/03/2014 21:33

Whatever happened must have happened quickly and to everyone at once. It's likely passengers would have attempted to message loved ones if they had an idea something serious was happening.

ChaffinchOfDoom · 14/03/2014 21:49

think they said down thread mobiles would've been unuseable so far out to sea

LaCerbiatta · 14/03/2014 21:50

Well after what Goldie has just explained about the route through those points having to have been programmed how can the decompression theory possibly be true? ?

And another question from something just said on the channel 5 programme: if the black box records for 2 hours on a loop and the plane may have flown for 5 hours after changing route we'll never know what happened will we?

slugseatlettuce · 14/03/2014 21:53

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HeadfirstThroughTheTimeVortex · 14/03/2014 22:00

I also think the plane has landed somewhere but for whatever reasons there is a news blackout.

PublicEnemyNumeroUno · 14/03/2014 22:02

Has that been confirmed tugamommy that it did fly across those flight lines or whatever they are in a certain direction? Or is it just more speculation?

georgedawes · 14/03/2014 22:04

www.nytimes.com/2014/03/15/world/asia/malaysia-military-radar.html?hp&_r=0

NY times saying it seems it was being flown by someone rather than on autopilot.

alcibiades · 14/03/2014 22:06

tugamommy - it's the last 2 hours of the flight that will give the best clue to what happened. There are two black boxes, one which records what the aircraft was doing, and one which records the conversation on the flight deck. If there was a decompression event which happened earlier than 2 hours, the flight data recorder would show a gradual or uncontrolled descent to land/sea; and the voice recorder would indicate silence from the flight crew. Not definitive proof of a decompression event, but a strong indication.

Bassetfeet · 14/03/2014 22:10

I believe it was hijacked . Too many strange coincidences and filtered news to outside world in a drip drip effect .
Where the aircraft is god only knows but I suspect it did turn around and the answer is west not east .
My heart goes out to the relatives and the passengers and crew.

LaCerbiatta · 14/03/2014 22:20

I thought the flying through those points was sort of confirmed but I don't know.

SantanaLopez · 14/03/2014 22:43

The NY Times says it flew at 45,000 feet- isn't that supersonic?! Concorde was 37000!

SundaySimmons · 14/03/2014 22:44

I'm still none the wiser after the programme.

One of the experts was pretty sure it was rapid decompression.

I did learn that in the event of a crash at sea that the plane seats are usually buoyant and can be spotted on the sea surface after a crash.

It just seems incredible that it can just disappear when we have all this technology to monitor air traffic by radar.

I watched Stephen Kings The Langoliers recently and it's beginning to not look so far fetched!

AchyFox · 14/03/2014 23:06

My suspicions are based around what isn't being said.

Why are we not hearing more from tomnod ?
Why didn't they refute the Chinese theory (would have been great publicity for them) ?
Why haven't the US satellites spotted the debris field ?

Satellite imaging must be able to pick up the debris field, if one exists.
It's not going to be cloudy all the time so over the last 4-5 days there must be 95+% coverage.

To me it looks like:

65% went down near last official contact and has been missed
30% hijack
5% decompression/hypoxia scenario

I think hypoxia is unlikely, as 237 inc 12 crew is just too many people all to have been caught out especially at only 40 minutes into a flight. Just too many people observing too many other people all with a bell curve of physiological responses, and oxygen masks available at arms length.

ohfourfoxache · 14/03/2014 23:11

Erm, I've just heard that the plane flew west for five hours after losing contact with air traffic control Shock

I'm just gobsmacked that this is possible, that here is a way of turning the trackers off.

Does anyone know if this report has been confirmed?

I know I'm being extremely naive, but a part of me hopes that it was a hijack and that it has landed somewhere and that everyone is ok Sad Pretty unlikely, huh?

TheFabulousIdiot · 14/03/2014 23:14

Someone on goggle box described it as looking for the back of an earring in a 200 acre field, which I thought was a good analogy.

FallonColby · 14/03/2014 23:21

I wonder if there was precious cargo on board, a gold heist or something. This probably sounds crazy but coincidentally, Ukraine had all their gold reserves flown out on the 7th March.

weasle · 15/03/2014 00:05

I'm really disturbed by this event. How can a plane just vanish a whole week ago? If it is a hijack, which personally I think is quite likely, then why this flight? I'm finding it very unnerving especially as DH is away and flying back through this area next week.
I had to fly to USA with a baby the day after the big liquids scare when you couldn't take any hand luggage at all for a few days and I didn't enjoy that. You feel so vulnerable in a plane. Yes, driving is statistically less safe, but you do have the perception of more control potentially.

Very interesting reading all the expert knowledge on here, thanks. It will all come out eventually I'm sure. Awful for the families waiting.

YNK · 15/03/2014 00:50

Just a thought, but given a comment earlier about insurance, roughly how valuable is this plane?

YNK · 15/03/2014 00:55

OMG, I just realised what I said!!! Of course value can be measured in many ways - I know all the missing people are irreplaceable!

Quinteszilla · 15/03/2014 01:02

There are companies with satellites imaging all corners of the earth, at any one time, various space agencies and various agencies dealing with marine /nautical observations, and research, relating to weather, ice in the polar regions etc. Surely there are images which can show the plane and where the plane is going?

I am also concerned about what is NOT said.

Quinteszilla · 15/03/2014 01:03

"I know I'm being extremely naive, but a part of me hopes that it was a hijack and that it has landed somewhere and that everyone is ok"
There would not be enough food and water..... Sad

NigellasDealer · 15/03/2014 01:04

but that would depend on where it landed quint? if it landed, that is.

Quinteszilla · 15/03/2014 01:06

Yes, but would it be in the interest of the hijackers to keep people alive and under control?

If they have a plane, and tracking turned off, that plane could have restocked their cargo/passengers and be anywhere with a landings strip by now. Scary thought.

BrokenToeOuch · 15/03/2014 01:28

This whole case has fascinated me. I have no theories or ideas to contribute but this thread has made very interesting reading indeed. So many possibilities and I think and hope we have some answers very soon, though not as much as the relatives of the passengers. What hideous levels of hell they must have gone through in this last week :(

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