paedophiles escape open prison

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This latest escapee is the fourth in just weeks. Two paedophiles escaped last week from this open prison. What the hell are paedos doing in an open prison???

Paedophilia is a sexual perversion - the natural sexual impulses have been twisted, usually during childhood or adolescence, so that the person does not get sexual satisfaction from other adults but only from children. They have no more control over this than you or I have over who we find attractive. The sex drive is one of the strongest instinctive impulses along with our need to find food etc. In fact sexual impulses can often override other instincts such as self preservation. The Nazis were interested in this and tortured men by setting up experiments where they told men they would be harmed or killed if they got erections, then sent in women to sexually arouse them. Even in fear for their lives the men were unable to stop themselves from responding.

It seems like half of you here think that paedophiles just choose to mess about with children because they are evil, or because they think it'll be a laugh, or something.

I agree with you Franny, and its because they dont choose to be like it that its so hard to stop and control it iyswim.

I used to be very much a 'hang them, chop it off, make them go through the same' type person until I actually took some time to think about it.

Have no idea what the solution is though

I don't doubt ofr a minute that paedophilia is a complex issue that often arises from an experience of abuse themselves. However....

please will they keep Usk Prison doors locked

some of us have to live here.

Thank you.

Because they can't help it, doesn't make it alright.
Whilst taking steps to help them, the priority should be the safety of those who may be abused by them.

Exactly

So keep the bloody doors locked

(are you seeing my pint yet? [wink) LOL

This type of "castrate them" sentiment angers me because it prevents paedophiles from getting proper treatment. Convicted paedophiles have skipped bail and missed the therapy they need because they have been "outed" in communities and had to flee. If I were a young man with paedophiliac tendencies, would I come forward and seek help and possibly treatment? No way! I would try to suppress it and hope against hope that those feelings would go away. Culturing a climate of hatred and ignorance, leads to people just trying to ignore paedophiliac urges, or treat their disorder themselves. It's not an effective way of dealing with it, and doesn't protect our children.

I didn't say it was alright.

Franny chemical castration is a viable treatment with good results, when couple with cbt for a properly evaluated offender

and when they agree to th treatment..reoffending can be as low as 2%

which is good for the offender and the community

People are saying cut off their willies, zippi, amongst other delights.

Obv cutting their willies off is repulsive and not acceptable.

Chemical castration IS a different ballgame, and whilst i think it should only be used on repeat offenders (who imo should receive all forms of counselling / therapy including CBT after the first offence, with continuatioon after release), I do think it should be considered for repeat offences.

With every case being approached on a per case basis.

Not all the prisoners being lost from here are sex offender though, some are 'just' dangerously violent.

well that is just ignorance as castration is removel of testosterone producing bits the testes/gonads not a penectomy

and in some people it is testosterone which is implicated but

the current thinking is that ssris like prozac are effective especially when combined with cbt

sorry I was answering Franny..I am saying much the same as peachy

that'll teach me....

I didn't know that zippi. My knowledge of paedophiles is years out of date I admit

they also use a drug which is used to treat breast cancer..will find it's name for you

I seem to end up on these paedophile threads for some reason

Glad you do, zippi, it's good to get accurate information.

"Reoffending rates in men prescribed drugs such as cyproterone acetate (not available in the United States), triptorelin, goserelin, leuprorelin, and Depo-Provera (in North America) are low"

I think leuprorelin is the breast feeding one

that is from this this site

sorry breast cancer one not breast feeding

I remember ooh- many years ago- reading an artiocle about a California clinic that had a reasonable success rate treating these people. The UK refused to implement many of their techniques, indeed some of the men there had never been convicted but ahd gone voluntarily nd some were saying about chemical castration BY CHOICE

Obviously it's a crime, and perpetrators should be locked up and they do terrible damage. I don't think Paedophiles usually just happen though- they tend to have hugely sad lives themselves, often with severe abuse. If chemical castration can give them a relatively ormal life with minimum chance of reoffending (AFTER they ahve served their time if they have offended) then perhaps Paedophiles actually deserve the chance?

Totally agree Franny

Castration (chemical)dumbs down this impulse their desire is weakened it's a fact that many people who commit these crimes do not re-offend after castration why? they don't fantasise as much,their sexual activity decreases dramatically some actually give up sex altogether.

Many sexual offenders often don't like their behaviour and castration gives them a release from deviant feelings/behaviour.

It may not work for all but it works for some, like any treatment... if it stops some people from re-offending then I'm all for it!!

from waht I've read for some paedophiles/sex offenders it sounds like it would go well with the "Circles" programme which we were discussing a few weeks ago

How about locking repeat offenders up? For good! There's an idea.

Until they can EVER figure out a way to successfully rehabilitate a paedo.

What an excellent idea expatinscotland.

That an excellent idea

Record on managing to lock doors rather poor at the mo, frm what I cn see

Craig Sweeney who abducted that poor 3 year old girl committed the most horrific sex acts that in court the jury were all reduced to tears. When he kidnapped & abused the girl he drove from newport to swindon where it was only by chance was pulled over by the police (a dodgy rear light), the mother believes he was on his way to meet a paedophile ring and she would of most prob end up dead.
I know this was a different story but my point is these people are evil and a menace to society and should be locked up for good, although sure that will never happen as too costly. I know I am stating what we all already know but it's so frustrating because I really don't know what the answer is tbh.