Have we talked about Michael Douglas yet?!

[Repeatedlydoingthetwist]

He said today that his throat cancer was caused by cunnilingus.
jezebel.com/michael-douglas-thanks-cunnilingus-marathons-for-throat-510923443

Thoughts?!

And his publicist says he didn't mean it anyway

No idea. And I don't recall Farrah Fawcet declaring that her cancer was caused by too much bum love either. Unless she said it on that film she made that was too upsetting to watch.

Has anyone else seen those posters of Behind the Candelabra and think Michael Doyglas as Liberace looks amazing, there he is standing next to Matt bloody Damon and I fancy a man in his 60s with dyed black hair dressed like that bloke from Wizzard portraying a gay man.

I can't wait to see that film.

Lucky old Catherine Zeta.

I can't wait either! I have no one to go with though. I kind of wish it was on telly likd it was in America.

I was really surprised that it didn't get a cinema release in America and was a cable TV film.

I am looking forward to it as well.

Nicetabard: I read in a dental journal that most cases of oral cancer where hpv is the cause occur 15 years or more after contracting the HPV. So you aren't exposing your DH to cancer, that's far too simplistic. You don't even know if you have HPV, but if you do, then you are potentially exposing him to HPV which, in a minority of cases, can lead to cancer.

JEALOUS of limited. I would have gone back to his hotel room. Mind you I don't like like Atherine Zeta. More like Kathleen Turner in Romancing the Stone but pre the glam bit, more the bit were she looks like a sap in that horrible coat and spinsters topknot.

I am sorry, you are all having a serious discussion and I am rambling on like a knob.

Thanks akiss.

I have tried to do some research just now but it seems there are only studies finding "a link" and hard numbers are not easy to find.

The risk increased the more partners you have had - presumably because you are more likely to be exposed to the virus. It said 250% increase in risk if you had more partners but din't say 250% of what!

Helpful.

She gave an interview where she said exactly that.

I think there is a dual discussion getorf

So don't worry about it. I think I've asked my questions now anyway so feel free to talk about liberace

We've been sharing the Michael love since he was on Graham Norton the other week. This is just an extension of that.

Mind you, I have a question. He was a sex addict I assume that means he's had his fair share of lovers? So was he passing on hpv every time he was going down on them and would if show up on a smear if you had picked it up that way or would he have to have an extremely long tongue?

Yes, I'm sorry for bringing the thread down also,

I think he'd have passed it on through getting blow jobs or having penetrative sex.

I don't think even using a condom provides full protection.

I think there are loads of different strains and loads of people have it, but there's no way of knowing unless you have something visible ie warts. Is coldsore virus an HPV one as well?

I don't know if you have it on eg your mouth it is in your whole body or what.

HPV seems like v tricky blighter.

My dentist is always on the hunt for oral cancer. This may be because he's very conscientious or it may be because he gets paid by the NHS to flag up possible cases .

I have no idea - I'm just putting that idea out there and Icould be wrong - but he's fucking enthusiastic.

This entailed me traipsing to a hospital four years ago after a two month referral which made me feel a little edgy, to sit among people who looked a lot iller than me.

The nurse appeared surprised to see me. The doctor/dentist was flabbergasted. She said the small lump in my cheek was a benign fatty deposit and explained why she though that and also explained what to look and taste for in cancer. She also explained about risk factors, of which I had none. She didn't even bother with a biopsy.

From her explanation it seemed that my type of lump was common and you didn't have to be an expert to know that. She didn't say it but I think any dentist not looking to boost his income from the NHS would have known that.

I'm due for a check up now but I've been nibbling the inside of my cheek, because I do that sometimes. I'm trying hard to stop and let it heal because I can't face him saying: 'Ooh, Miss Limited. There is an area of trauma inside your mouth. It could be something suspicious. I think you should go to the Eastman. Ker-ching.'

Nice tabard: I've found some US stats that state that 16 million Americans had oral HPV in 2012, while fewer than 15,000 will develop oral cancer.

We don't get paid for flagging up possible oral cancer cases. We might get sued or struck off for missing one though.

It's not me that looks like Catherine Zeta Jones GetOrf. It's my friend Linda.

I looked like a cross between Boy George and Koo Stark in their younger, slimmer, less bonkers days. It's an acquired taste that not that many were keen to acquire.

And Michael Douglas threatened to sue anyone who said he was a sex addict, though he was perfectly okay with alcohol and cocaine, which if you re-read that article like the saddo I am, you'll notice.

Fair point akiss. I'm more than willing to accept I'm wrong but I just wanted to raise it. He's bloody enthusiastic though. When I've stopped biting my cheek I'll go and maybe I'll say, 'Can you just lay off because you're putting me off coming.'

Finding oral cancer in a patient would be my worst nightmare. It's pretty offensive to think dentists rub their hands in glee because we get extra money for it (obviously we don't). If you don't like your dentist's enthusiasm then see a different one.

I need to watch the Graham Norton intereview.

I said on a thread last week. I have had a crush on Michael Douglas for nearly 30 years.

ok akiss. That's not my intention, as I tried to make clear in my last post. If I didn't manage that, and you believe I meant to be offensive, then there's nothing I can do and I think we should leave it.

He was a smoker. For most of his life.

But no- his cancer was definitely caused by sex.

I think they found HPV in the tumor Seeker, so yes, definitely caused by sex (and probably also smoking, but definitely sex).

I think fair play to him. We're all aware sex happens?!

I'm always well confused about why we are so reluctant to talk about sex?!