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Have we talked about Michael Douglas yet?!

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Repeatedlydoingthetwist · 02/06/2013 18:58

He said today that his throat cancer was caused by cunnilingus.
jezebel.com/michael-douglas-thanks-cunnilingus-marathons-for-throat-510923443

Thoughts?!

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BeyonceCastle · 03/06/2013 11:52

A four sentence comment then became this

www.guardian.co.uk/film/2013/jun/02/michael-douglas-oral-sex-cancer

presumably because the idea of repeated exposure to hpv also acting as a 'cure' made no sense medically according to a doctor interviewed.

But also because it makes great tabloid type headline and is now most viewed as a result.

BegoniaBampot · 03/06/2013 13:21

Don't see why he is being criticised. Was Angelina Jolie ewewd at? Do you all have a giggle over testicle cancer as well? Seems like a few actually learned something today, me included.

limitedperiodonly · 03/06/2013 14:01

I think it's good of him to say it. I'm not that old and I can remember when people didn't talk about breast cancer because it was rude.

The Today programme gave a warning of a marmalade-dropper before they launched into their quite sensible item Grin. I think it was their guest who raised the idea that it might be a good reason to innoculate boys against HPV and not just girls.

Sky's Dermot Murnaghan was very uncomfortable with the subject. Poor Mrs M. Maybe that's why their marriage had a bit of a blip.

limitedperiodonly · 03/06/2013 14:11

And Michael Douglas has gone right up in my estimation as the kind of man who does Grin

Lighthousekeeping · 03/06/2013 14:47

You can tell that just by looking at him Grin

CatherineofMumbles · 03/06/2013 15:54
Grin
Repeatedlydoingthetwist · 03/06/2013 16:01

You really can Wink

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hackmum · 03/06/2013 17:24

limited - ha, that was my reaction too. I always like a man who's willing to give as well as take.

Also, celebrity interviews are usually dull as dishwater so he certainly added a bit of oomph to this one.

I remember thinking well of him a year or two ago when he refused to sign that petition that all the Hollywood A-listers were signing in support of Roman Polanski.

limitedperiodonly · 03/06/2013 18:07

I like Michael Douglas. For this and for playing Liberace and also Matt Damon for playing his boyfriend. I think that's admirable of the two of them.

I saw Douglas on telly at a Davos summit talking about nuclear weapons. He was concerned about proliferation but was working within the constraints of being a semi-official US spokesman.

Snow was falling all around and it looked really pretty and very expensive and he kept pronouncing it nucular.

But I liked his message and the fact that he volunteered the fact that world leaders were only listening to him because he was a Hollywood superstar. That was okay, because if it meant they were listening to someone with something important and informed to say, we might be getting somewhere.

George Clooney says the same sort of thing. It would be nice if he could be more forthcoming on gay issues, but every little helps. I also liked Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie using the launch of World War Z to talk about breast cancer and the inequalities of health care in their country.

Mostly slebs are stupid. But sometimes they're not.

On another note: I've interviewed Douglas and he told me what a bloody despicable heel he was, cheating on his first wife with her best friend amongst countless other women. When I came to write it up I realised the gist of the piece was going to be: 'I used to be a horrible person, but I'm such a nice guy now.' That's clever.

My friend interviewed him about 10-15 years before. He invited her to come back to his suite later. She decided not to. She looks a lot like Catherine Zeta Jones, if Catherine Zeta Jones hadn't been in nappies then.

Lighthousekeeping · 03/06/2013 19:19

Why would Clooney be more vocal about gay issues? He's political enough.

I really admire Michael Douglas and I think he would be charming company Blush

Does anyone know if the Liberace film is for tv or cinema?

BeyonceCastle · 03/06/2013 19:28

Ended up being made for tv - HBO - as director Sonderbergh thought Hollywood deemed it 'too gay' for mainstream. Went to Cannes but palme d'Or went to Blue is warmest colour instead.
Shame as tv movie status means neither he nor Damon can be Oscar nominated.
Think it may have a limited cinema release in UK but not sure.

BeyonceCastle · 03/06/2013 19:31

released in UK June 7th apparently
shown on TV in States last Sunday

BeyonceCastle · 03/06/2013 19:32

Soderbergh

limitedperiodonly · 03/06/2013 19:38

It's not my place to say what people should talk about lighthouse

It would be interesting if a hunk and talented actor such as George Clooney talked about how normal it is to be gay and talented and clever. But you do what you do.

bamboostalks · 03/06/2013 19:41

There is still a lot of stigma around cancers which are affected by unprotected sex. Think how long Farrah Fawcett was sick before she admitted it was anal cancer caused by anal sex.

Lighthousekeeping · 03/06/2013 19:43

Nobody talks about that in Hollywood though, do they? Whether they are handsome and in the closet or not. It's the way it is. I agree it's a shame.

NiceTabard · 03/06/2013 20:18

I don't know about anyone else but I am uncertain what to do with this information.

The idea that DH might be exposing himself to cancer is horrendous.

How high is the risk, does anyone know?

Lighthousekeeping · 03/06/2013 20:22

I think it's quite hard to test for the virus and its not done on the NHS. I've no idea of the odds.

NiceTabard · 03/06/2013 20:43

I think most people have HPV don't they? Probably safe to assume you do rather than don't?

So where does that leave people?

AKissIsNotAContract · 03/06/2013 20:49

Maybe rimming is safer.

NiceTabard · 03/06/2013 20:51

Dunno.

Literally no idea.

SqueakyCleanNameChange · 03/06/2013 21:10

It leaves you aware that even if you don't smoke or drink you should still take signs of orophangeal cancer seriously.

It's the same situation as women have with cervical cancer - be aware, and inoculate our daughters (and perhaps sons, but that's a separate debate). Was your DH horrified by the idea that he was exposing you to cervical cancer Nice?

AKissIsNotAContract · 03/06/2013 21:22

Although they have isolated the cause of his cancer, smoking would have been a factor as it constricts the blood vessels and affects cell turnover and healing.

NiceTabard · 03/06/2013 21:24

I don't think he knows he is exposing me to cancer Confused
I expect he would be horrified as he has lost lots of relatives to cancer including his mum.

How does this work anyway? Is it the more you do it the more risk there is, or once you have the virus then however much you do it the risk is the same?

I am sure I have HPV, most people do, don't they?

I think they need to tell people what the risks are in terms of how to minimise them / is it a case of getting HPV or does more exposure increase risk / what the actual risk is. If it's 1 in a million I can live with it, if it's 1 in 100 then wow not so much.

This is all very unhelpful.