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Does this make Gwyneth a hypocrite?

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emkana · 14/05/2006 20:21

All vegan and hippy-dippy on the one hand,
but on the other hand employing a maternity nurse who advocates leaving a less than six-week-old baby to cry for 20 minutes...

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morningpaper · 14/05/2006 21:45

"What the point in eating all that macrobiotic stuff when pg and doing all that yoga and then allowing your child's brain to flood with cortisol "

'zactly, Threebob

UCM · 14/05/2006 21:46

Lucky cow, to have had someone to let her child cry and listen to it. Unfortunately I listened to mine ( I worshipped at the temple of GF but not all of the time.....

I just think she was lucky to have a somebody to take over.

marthamoo · 14/05/2006 22:04

I'm loving...

Oh, I so want her to have a really dodgy Scottish accent like Robin Williams as Mrs Doubtfire...perfect!

harpsichordcarrier · 14/05/2006 22:16

"I believe this is because Rachel put us in a routine so that Apple always felt that there was a loving structure around her. She knew what was coming and could look forward to it with certainty."

what a load of old toss, quite frankly.
why do you think that otherwise clever and sensible people talk such bolleaux about babies??

"ah yes" says apple "not to worry that I am not getting anything to eat just now because it will be time to eat in twenty minutes"

I mean have these people ever met a baby? THEY DON'T HAVE ANY CONCEPT OF TIME
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

fattiemumma · 14/05/2006 22:31

i use a similar thing with DD in as much as i ut her to bed at the same time each night. occasionally she will have a whinge but for no more than 2-3 minutes. DD however is 19 months, not 6 weeks!

harpsichordcarrier · 14/05/2006 22:45

I also don't really understand that it seems to be the highest praise to say that a method of parenting "won't do any harm."
personally, I was hoping for more from the parenting experience than failing to actually damage your child.
I don't know - love, joy, fun....

Elf1981 · 14/05/2006 23:03

I personally cannot let my baby cry. It breaks my heart. I dont do it because I hate to see her get into a state, and I am not strong enough to let her do it.
I couldn't follow GF as I have enough trouble fitting my day into a schedule, let alone making one up for myself and baby.
I feed my baby when she is hungry, I pick her up when she cries, I hug her whenever I can because in my view that is what a mother does, and I couldn't imagine doing it any other way.
I may have made a rod for my own back by not letting her fall asleep by herself, or by making her expect somebody to be there every time she cries, but I'd rather her know that she has support than she has to battle on alone.
And even if I could have afforded a maternity nurse, for a singleton pregnancy I wouldn't have had one. Perhaps if I'd had twins or more, but only for all the hand holding as I'd be in a panic!

koshka1984 · 14/05/2006 23:16

Argh, its so confusing all of this looking after your baby thing!

im PG at the moment and all of the 'experts' with books out are so confusing!
There is no way i will be able to have a schedule, my DP works at a nightclub and he works there days and nights, so whatever has to be done is done around him really...

I'm just glad i found you lot or my head would be spinning from all this info!

Medea · 14/05/2006 23:21

Seems to me you can be vegan & yet at the same time not want to go suicidal with sleep deprivation.

Or are the two mutually exclusive.

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emkana · 14/05/2006 23:23

Do people really go suicidal by week six of baby's life because of sleep deprivation?

I must be a tough cookie, I lived through dd1 waking up every night until she was well into her second year and I survived.

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arfy · 14/05/2006 23:24

I SERIOUSLY doubt that their 'people' ever let Gwynie and Chris miss out on their beauty sleep

Tortington · 14/05/2006 23:25

yes - razor blades and is life worth living and everything.

and in response to the OPs original question.

no shes just a twat

harpsichordcarrier · 14/05/2006 23:25

blimey, suicidal with sleep deprivation...
isn't that a tiny bit hyperbolic?

NotAnOtter · 14/05/2006 23:25

give the woman a break

harpsichordcarrier · 14/05/2006 23:26

and - anyway - I don't really buy that it is let your baby cry OR go suicidal with sleep deprivation.
if you are very worn out in the post natal period - get some help is prob the first thing I would recommend rather than letting the baby suffer.

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emkana · 14/05/2006 23:27

nah I don't think she deserves a break really

they are both sanctimonious idiots (her and Chris Martin) spouting out all this rubbish about their bl*dy perfect lifestyle

and then this...

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emkana · 14/05/2006 23:28

With dd1 I did find it very tiring at times.
With dd2 I co-slept from the start and breastfed while dozing.
Most mornings I couldn't even have told you how many times she had woken up in the night.

Shoot me down now but me thinks that's more the way nature has intended it to be.

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arfy · 14/05/2006 23:30

I agree with Emkana

I'd give them a break if they weren't such dreary sanctimonius bores Smile

expatinscotland · 15/05/2006 09:51

I didn't go suicidal w/sleep deprivation. I went suicidal from PND.

Sure, the sleep deprivation wasn't fun, but single mums manage to make it through it and many don't even have any outside help.

Second time round, however, got PND again. Still managed to hack the first 6 weeks w/DD2 AND 2.5 year old DD1 - no 'sleep when the baby sleeps' when you've got a toddler, too.

ADs helped, but mostly it was b/c I had to do what I had to do and just get on w/it.

Gwennie, on the other hand, did what she was able to afford - hire a nurse and pay her to listen to her baby cry.

Angeliz · 15/05/2006 10:05
Angry I really daren't say what i really feel about this woman. I agree with the comments early on (i haven't read all the thread) about the baby feeling secure being swaddled. That may be the case IMO if the baby is near someone but to be swaddled, screaming, alone in a dark room..........i's be flaming petrified myself and i'm 32!!Angry

Can't bear these people!
and yes to answer the question. it does make all their 'natural' ways look like a total joke!

suzywong · 15/05/2006 10:09

Oh goody, I can roll up the sleeve on my Mawkish Gurning Celeb Bashing Arm and give her one.

She called her baby APPLE, ffs, does that not give you some clue??????

Enid · 15/05/2006 10:11

lol at expectation that chris martin and gwyneth are anything other than vacuous slebs

madonna introduced them ffs

suzywong · 15/05/2006 10:13

I've had Chris Martin in the back of my cab a long time ago just before they made the big time and I get the impression he would go a long with any thing at all any woman with a deeper voice than his said.
SPRAY @ Vaccuous.

Enid · 15/05/2006 10:15

lol at deep voice

he went to dh's posh school they were in the same 'house'

bunny3 · 15/05/2006 10:18

i hopw shereads this, i hope she reads this, please God make her read this. Should wipe the smug smile off her face Grin

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