Woman dies in Galway after being denied termination

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Holy evil pro-life bastards, batman

The wonder is it that there haven't been more

RIP Savita Halappanavar :(

(Sorry that was sarcastic about Dorries.)

if all the people that campaign against abortion, put that energy into helping the children int he world that do exist and need help.
the world would be a better place

There is a 34 year old woman, and her family, in Ireland who command my respect.

I hope she has moved on and is happy.

14 years reduced to 4?

Jesus is still weeping.

I just don't believe this story - I think there is more to it. I do not think we know all the facts on this case.

MidWeek I just don't believe your disbelief about this story. I think there is more to it.

You think Ireland is bad (it is) - do a little internet research on abortion law in Malta. Illegal even in cases of rape or incest. And they're proud of it.

I just hope that her death brings reform. There is no way that medical staff should be worrying whether they might be in trouble with the law for performing a termination to save someone's life. This is why the UK law is so sensible in this regard. I don't think Ireland should receive any more money from the EU until they come into the 21st century on abortion.

I was only a child when she died but God yes, that was unspeakably tragic.

Giving birth in a grotto, what better emblem of Holy Catholic Ireland could there be, only for her and her baby to die from haemorrhaging and exposure. At that time giving birth outside of marriage was still such a scandal. Even in 1984.

Yes, gussie, that 14 year old girl, now a 34 year old woman, deserved much better. The attorney general, Whelehan, who persecuted her was also criticised for dragging his feet in extraditing Brendan Smyth, a priest accused of paedophile crimes, from Northern Ireland.

Clearly the Irish state - successive governments and the judiciary - hate women and protect paedophiles. Also notable how quick Irish politicians are to do the bidding of Europe when it's money that is at stake - Ireland is the poster boy of European austerity - but when it's women's lives and human rights that are at issue, hey ho, let's just ignore it.

(And yes, I do know the European Convention on Human Rights is the Council of Europe, not the EU, but still.)

midweekslump there there. Go back to sleep.

Just going back to something way down the thread (beginnings 19:33:06)where she quotes a gobsmacking part of the the Irish Constitution:

"1° In particular, the State recognises that by her life within the home, woman gives to the State a support without which the common good cannot be achieved.
2° The State shall, therefore, endeavour to ensure that mothers shall not be obliged by economic necessity to engage in labour to the neglect of their duties in the home."

Can we send Xenia over to them please?

thunk. I had missed that post.

I haven't read the whole thread but for anyone from the Republic of Ireland the National Women's Council have done this campaining tool looking for politicians to legislate for the X case

www.nwci.ie/takeaction/legislate-for-x/

Oh sorry working link www.nwci.ie/takeaction/legislate-for-x/

My friend had her waters go and kept leaking (kept replenishing as they do), from 17 to 33 weeks when she gave birth to a healthy baby. In this very hospital very recently. So they could not say the baby would definitely not survive

galwaygal

Savita was miscarrying, I assume your friend was not? Once the miscarriage is under way, there is nothing that can be done. Your friends case & this were not the same.

I am from Ireland and I am, obviously, so embarrassed by this story. I cannot begin to grasp what this lady's family has gone through and I extend them my sympathies. This should never have happened. I personally feel that the medical staff were at fault here and that some flexibility, official or not, should have been exercised. Our country has it's faults, but that is not a reason to indulge in bashing Ireland. We are not far, I feel, from legalising abortion and that will be a welcome development. The current situation of 'abortion is illegal' but women travel to England etc for one is RIDICULOUS. Voltaire's quote, (modified) must apply here: 'I do not agree with your wish to have an abortion but I will defend your right to have one'. RIP Savita, I am so sorry that my country let you down in your hour of need.

I wonder if the formal agreements from this conference contributed to Savita being prevented from getting the treatment she needed.

www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/0910/1224323797477.html

Eamon O?Dwyer, professor emeritus of obstetrics and gynaecology at NUI Galway

Prof O?Dwyer and a panel of speakers also formally agreed a ?Dublin declaration? on maternal healthcare. It stated: ?As experienced practitioners and researchers in obstetrics and gynaecology, we affirm that direct abortion is not medically necessary to save the life of a woman. ?We uphold that there is a fundamental difference between abortion and necessary medical treatments that are carried out to save the life of the mother, even if such treatment results in the loss of life of her unborn child. ?We confirm that the prohibition of abortion does not affect, in any way, the availability of optimal care to pregnant women.?

Despicable arseholes, deeming it optimal that women be forced to travel abroad for abortion, or suffer needlessly as Savita and her family have.

I still doubt that the termination on its own would have saved her, and I think many here are assuming that it would have

I think the point is they should have at least tried! They withheld a possible life saving operation from her. Tell me, would they ever do that to a man?

as long as a heartbeat was present then under Irish law the doctors could not act unless the woman's life is at threat

erm.. the whole point is, is that her life WAS at risk.

Poor woman an her family, may she rest in peace
Religion should not have a place in medical situations!