Newsnight Fri 2 Nov please watch v Important you know who is running the country

[MrsjREwing]

Tom Watkins tweeted a seniour politician will be outed tonight and Max Clifford said on Daybreak shocking news will be released by the BBC today.

And questions must be asked about some of the serving police officers in NW of that time.

There's a court injunction by the man who would have been exposed. Perhaps the tweet was the only way to keep the story public in a sense.

Sexual interest in children (if indeed there is anything in the allegations) is not new. In Victorian London there were child brothels. It has always been important children are protected and of course that libelous material is not published I have a feeling this time the injunction is not going to work very well but let's see.

yeah - if it's the north Wales thing it's def the lord

People on Twitter seem to all be naming the same person but not sure how much of that is just reflective of a sort of sheep mentality...

Newsnight didn't need to name him (and probably couldnt anyway due to legal reasons)as it's out there now for everyone to see anyway. Channel 4 news tonight sailed very close to the wind in naming him, so it was easy to figure out.

There's plenty to read about Wrexham and that person.
I think he's the senior one.

Can someone please PM me when you have a min. Cos i dont think its the person that i originally thought.

Well Freddie Starr's injunction didn't work, did it? It was overturned. Lets hope this one is too.

BBc wanted to look like they arent the bottle jobs they proved they were with Savile and so thought they would throw this into the loop but just left everyone dangling. They are pretty pathetic.

There really was a COBRA meeting about Ash Trees today... my employer is linked to what is happening there... not saying there weren't any other meetings there too but the people meeting about the trees wouldn't necessarily be the same people who might be in the room about this other stuff iyswim...

No, let's hope it's not overturned, and that the police - unless you believe the British police are incapable of running such an investigation in the current climate - can get on with their work. The public does not need to know every detail of an ongoing major investigation, except when there is a serious allegation that the current investigation is incompetent.

The Internethas gone mad today, and so has this thread, with innuendo about just about any unpopular public figure getting swept up in in.

Now, maybe amongst the plethora of names there are indeed one or more criminals. But that is for the police to establish and the CPS to prosecute. And perhaps once any criminalmcases are delay with, there will be a need for an enquiry into earlier investigations. But again, those wil be better handled by properly appointees with powers to interview under caution or under oath.

I fear this will be another stick to beat the BBC with

Do you know what? I thought this would be a serious criminal investigation into a shockingly prolific child sex offender, and into any accomplices he may have had that are still alive and so can be brought to justice.

But no, it actually must have been a form of Friday Night entertainment. Name the evil famous person. Major disappointment.

Sorry I got it wrong there

What were the lawyers at the Welsh tribunal doing? Did not one of them have the balls to represent those children properly?

"First we kill the lawyers" now I understand that quote.

Well said Growlithe, I think the BBC were doing their best to get the name out there by tweeting earlier and I really, really hope David Cameron will meet with the victim on Newsnight and grant a new investigation.

Growlithe in the interview on NN he made it clear that he reported it (or tried to) at the time and the POLICE DIDNT believe him.

I hope that the victim who bravely related details of appalling abuse will not be let down.

Hopefully, as in the Savile case, others will now come forward.

The Hollie Greig thing is a hoax! Was discredited ages ago.
All these blogs are just conspiracy-theorist fantasists, and the people commenting on them are vile.

Yes, there will be well-known figures that are paedophiles. Yes, there will be people who use their fame or economic status to abuse children and young people and get away with it.

Threads like this don't help anything, certainly not the victims.

It's just prurient.

Growlithe, how would this become a serious criminal investigation if the police didn't believe him?

Look, I know for some people it looks as though it is just entertainment, but it is not it is incrediably serious. These people have been protected for too long, its easy to say just leave it to the police but that is what happened and it was covered up.

These days, like it or not, social media has and is changing the world, and people are having a voice that was quietened before. Many of these people did speak up at the time and were not believed. It is going to be a messy come out because it was so messed up before.

If exposure (media) had not run the JS story then everyone would still be in the dark.

Those poor boys. I hope they get heard now and apologies by those that harmed them and let them down.

What a mess that the abuser got an injunction, I hope there is a proper investigation and public arrest.

I am not saying that there hasn't been a massive massive cover up. I'm not saying I didn't believe every word the guy said. I'm saying that it is not at all appropriate for the BBC to create the will we or won't we name this major figure, and then for threads like this to express disgust that they didn't, to the point of posters asking for names by PM.

Ask yourself. At this point in the investigation does it actually matter a jot if YOU know the names of the accused?

No, I agree with that to an extent Grow, my feeling is, and it is only my feeling, that this cover up has gone on for too long. Why should someone so rich and protected be able to slap an injuntion on and stop a proper prosecution happening.

If it were jo bloggs down the street then no, there is no reason to name, but these people are running our country, our lives so yes I want to know, I want them to be in court, I dont want them having a say in my life. If the police could be trusted to bring them to court then it would be different, but they have proved not to be trust worthy in all of this. So what do we do?

As for this thread, its absolute human nature to talk about this, people are trying to get their heads around all these allegations.

It doesn't matter to me what his name is, what does matter is that the scale of abuse that has been allowed to happen and people who could stop it haven't. They have covered it up!