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imagine how this little girl is going to feel when sheis old enough to understand

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stitch · 20/03/2006 18:26

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can this not be classed as child abuse?

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milward · 20/03/2006 20:04

Could have had her kid adopted - wasn't forced to bring it up. Awful thing - poor kid when she finds out the story & that her twin didn't survive.

Angeliz · 20/03/2006 20:16
Sad Poot little girl and selfish selfish selfish Mother!

Whatever happened about her past, the child's conception or anything, to do that now is just horrific! Imagine the taunting when she's older if that child gets well known!

TwoIfBySea · 20/03/2006 21:22

What a cold-hearted, money-grabbing, greedy, nasty b*tch.

That poor, poor little girl! Her "mother" and I use that term loosely, considers her a financial burden. How lovely. And if she won that money, and I hope to God she doesn't but if she does then how much is that little girl going to see of it. I hope if they do award her the money they put it all in a trust fund for the kid to get on her 18th.

If she didn't want the responsibility of being a mother after the abortion attempt partly failed then she could have given that baby for adoption. She would then have gone to a family who would love and care for her and not see her as a financial burden.

Jeez! This makes my blood boil. I just watch a documentary about how Iraqi hospitals have no money to treat sick babies, saw the awfulness of a twin born early die on the programme because they didn't have a fing mask for her! And this btch latches onto the compensation culture with both hands. Hope it blows up in her face and that poor little girl has at least someone who thinks she is wonderful.

WestCountryLass · 20/03/2006 21:24

That has really made me angry.

I might be being judgemental but my thoughts are that this woman is trying to "get rich quick".

I am pretty sure that she would have been ranted a 2nd abortion when she discovered she was still pregnant as the first one had failed.

That poor child :(

expatinscotland · 20/03/2006 21:28

Wait, her mum and dad are doing the lion's share of bringing her up, and she wants money for 'lost earnings'. I think she should pay the state money for 'lost personal responsibility'.

Poor kid! She'd have been so cherished by some couple who can't have kids.

TwoIfBySea · 20/03/2006 21:31

Um, felt strongly enough to email Tayside Health Board

[email protected]

with the trust fund idea!

expatinscotland · 20/03/2006 21:32

Thanks, Two! I'm going to send them a message, too.

pebblemum · 20/03/2006 22:28

That mum has had 4yrs to get used to having a beautiful healthy girl, surely in that time she would have fallen in love with her and seen her as a blessing. Why decide to sue after all this time and do it so openly? Angry

If she had wanted to go out to work I am sure she could have found a way, the grandparents sound as though they are very hands on. And if she had definately not wanted a baby why didnt she have her adopted so the little girl could be bought up by people who would realise how precious she is.

I cant imagine how that little girl will feel when she realises her mum told the world she had tried to kill her and was disappointed it hadnt worked. That poor thing Sad

sparklymieow · 20/03/2006 23:07

I still can't believe this. wicked woman..

sparklymieow · 20/03/2006 23:26

Actually i should sue my DH and myself for getting pregnant with DD2, we were drunk and got carried away, never wanted another baby, and all through my pregnancy I didn't want her, BUT I feel in love with her the second she was born.

Can't believe that anyone would want to drag their child through this, how many people have a unwanted pregnancy?? the difference is we take responibility and either care and love that child or give them up for adoption (if you really feel you are unable to care for that child)

As many of you will know, I have 3 kids, 2 with disabilities, but she has a healthy child who is beautiful, she should count her blessing and see her as a gift.

I read about a woman who took a termination pill and then changed her mind, she was told it was too late and she was devastated and didn't go back for the 2nd pill. The baby survived and she is so happy.

Sparklemagic · 20/03/2006 23:34

sparklymieow, I totally agree that this lovely little girl is a gift - but obviously this woman will never see it that way.

If she could for one second actually appreciate what she had, she would rather die than have her child ever know that she was the result of an unsuccessful abortion. As others have said she will now know that her mum went into hopsital, god rid of her twin and would have got rid of her too. If she truly valued her child, making £250 grand or sueing the hospital so that this issue could be highlighted would mean NOTHING to protecting her child from ever hearing anything about this.

The poor child has no chance of growing up undamaged by this, how could she?

handlemecarefully · 20/03/2006 23:38

Actually, I don't think it is so terrible that this woman is sueing the hospital. It's pretty deplorable that the hospital made such a fundamental cock up...

Also, think it is rather simplistic and silly to impute that the mother doesn't love and cherish her 4 year old dd....

handlemecarefully · 20/03/2006 23:40

Seriously doubt that the 4 year old will understand what is going on, and I can't imagine that the mother will be keeping a scrapbook of press cuttings for her

Bedshaped · 20/03/2006 23:42

No, hmc, but someone, somewhere, will say to her, Oh, you're the little girl whose mum sued the hospital because you were born! People are very cruel and it makes me very Sad for the poor wee thing.

sparklymieow · 20/03/2006 23:43

But if she did, she could have kept her daughter out the limelight, instead of allowing her piture and name to be in the press and on the internet.

handlemecarefully · 20/03/2006 23:44

I take your point to an extent, but today's news is tomorrow's fish and chips papers and news stories don't tend to have that sort of longuevity....don't you think?

handlemecarefully · 20/03/2006 23:46

..the news coverage does make me a little uncomfortable - but did the woman go willingly to the press, or did the media latch on to this story and hound her until she agreed to an interview?

Bedshaped · 20/03/2006 23:46

Hopefully not, but in the age of Google, I doubt she will remain anonymous for long. Is is just my friends teenagers who spend hours Googling their name combinations?

sparklymieow · 20/03/2006 23:49

even if they did, the child did not have to be identified.

Bedshaped · 20/03/2006 23:53

if the mother did not go willingly to the press, I am surprised the courts allowed the girl to be identified as she is under 16.

suzywong · 21/03/2006 00:13

When this woman is leaning on the NHS in later life, maybe for treatment for illnesses her lifestyle has contributed to, I hope they give her an almight Vs up..
What a thoroughly unpleasant and mean woman, how morally bankrupt and vile.

nightowl · 21/03/2006 01:32

i think the woman is money grabbing. no other way about it. after four years? 1: if she does not feel any love for that child and truly feels she is a burden...well...how can you feel like that after four years? she must be so coldhearted.
2: if she does now love the child then why put her through this (because she will find out later on in life)? and why sue...if she loves her then by now surely she would see the "mistake" as a blessing?

WideWebWitch · 21/03/2006 07:56

Agree hmc.

TearsBeforeBedtime · 21/03/2006 08:47

Below is a summary of the law in this type of case, taken from the Edinburgh Uni website. Sorry if it's a bit dry and academic and long, thought it might be of interest to some though:-

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Edin. L.R. IN THE HOUSE OF LORDS AGAIN

Lord Hope of Craighead cites Professor Ken Mason’s article, “Wrongful pregnancy, wrongful birth and wrongful terminology” (2002) 6 Edinburgh Law Review 46-66 in his dissenting speech in the House of Lords’ decision in Rees v Darlington Memorial Hospital NHS Trust, 16 October 2003, [2003] UKHL 52, at paras 56 and 57. Rees is the latest development in the saga unfolding since the House of Lords decided in McFarlane v Tayside Health Board 2000 SC (HL) 1 that parents could not recover damages for the cost of bringing up a healthy and normal child born to the wife following negligent advice on the effect of a vasectomy performed on the husband, apart from an award to cover the pain experienced by the mother in pregnancy and child-birth (see No 73). In the English case of Parkinson v St James and Seacroft University Hospital NHS Trust [2002] QB 266, strongly endorsed by Professor Mason, the Court of Appeal distinguished McFarlane in a case where the child was born with severe disabilities, and allowed recovery of additional costs incurred so far as attributable to the disabilities. Rees was a case of a disabled mother, who underwent a sterilisation operation because she felt unable to discharge the responsibilities of parenthood, but later bore a healthy and normal child, the sterilisation operation having been negligently performed. The Court of Appeal (Waller LJ dissenting) held that this was another exception to McFarlane ([2003] QB 20). By a majority of 4-3 (exceptionally, the case was heard by seven Law Lords), the House of Lords has overturned the judgment of the Court of Appeal. None of the judges was prepared to over-rule McFarlane, despite the contrary view taken on the point by the High Court of Australia in Cattanach v Melchior [2003] HCA 38 in June (see No 237), as well as by the Hoge Raad in the Netherlands and the Bundesverfassungsgericht in Germany, and despite what may be hints in a number of even the majority speeches at dissatisfaction with the decision. The majority appears to accept that Parkinson was rightly decided, but that the disabled parent is a different kind of case, in that it would be anomalous to relate liability to a disability which the negligence did not cause. Despite the decision not to allow recovery of the full costs, the majority does allow what some call a “gloss” on McFarlane’s award of damages for pain and suffering, viz that what is called a “conventional [i.e. non-compensatory] award” of £15,000 should be made, marking that a legal wrong had been committed and that the parent had suffered a loss through the denial to her of the opportunity to live her life in the way she wished and planned. The minority, consisting of Lords Steyn, Hope and Hutton, dissents principally on the basis that a further exception to McFarlane should be recognised, and that the “conventional award” has no basis in legal principle. Lord Steyn also refers to Professor Joe Thomson’s critique of McFarlane, “Abandoning the law of delict?”, 2000 SLT (News) 43 (para 33). It appears, however, that by the narrowest of majorities, the opportunity to retreat from McFarlane, as proposed by Professor Mason, is not to be taken. Perhaps that will have to await the day, as also observed by Professor Mason, when the House of Lords (or a Supreme Court), has a female member or members.

expatinscotland · 21/03/2006 08:48

'..the news coverage does make me a little uncomfortable - but did the woman go willingly to the press, or did the media latch on to this story and hound her until she agreed to an interview? '

She seems pretty willing. She allows photos of her child to be published, for example. And her w/her child.