Seven medals but now they want my benefits.

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When I said sorry I didn't mean...

Oh bugger, you've lost me again

You see why I believe Novack doesn't actually think what she posts? It all seems to be for effect.

Nice opportunity to get some more good data out, tho. Thanks for that.

Considering the UK mortality rate is 950 per 100,000 and there are 200,000 people appealing ATOS and that cancer accounts for between 12 to 15 percent of deaths then the guardian could find a story like this any day of the week to push their agenda.

Don't give up the day job, Novack. You haven't understood your own figures.

If you even tried to and weren't just jumbling words together.

You are a stranger to the comma, as well as facts, aren't you Novack?

CouthyMow Fri 31-Aug-12 14:54:27
ESA has an even LOWER combined fraud and DWP error rate of just 0.2%.

could you please post link to these figures CouthyMow

did my question get answered??

As usual a comma pedant appears when they have lost the point of the debate, for when their facts fail they try to ridicule instead.

I see the daily mash has sussed out what the govt is up to...

Would be funny if it wasn't a bit too close to the truth.

It's just that your lack of punctuation makes your posts even more impenetrable Novack.

But you're right. I should give up wasting the effort on you.

Novack you're the one misquoting/misunderstanding your own figures.

Anyway the Guardian isn't pushing it's own agenda - if you read/understood anything you would realise it's a direct quote from the Dispatches programme on channel 4, not only that, a direct quote from an Atos trainer. The Atos trainer says much as they feel uncomfortable about being unable to score people who a receiving oral chemo or hormone treatment. The trainer on dispatches (not the Guardian) says he had to give a man undergoing treatment for prostate cancer zero because he was receiving oral chemo (standard treatment for prostate cancer). The trainer on the film (not the Guardian) says he was uncomfortable doing this but had no choice.

I would think that was fairly simple to understand.

Farking iPod. Anyway - you get the idea.

Hmm this morning I received (for the first time in over 10 years of acting for ds1) a letter from DLA reviewing my appointment to act for DS1. I have to sign the form saying that I understand the responsibilities and return by 7/9/12 or ds1's DLA (higher rate care and higher rate mobility) will be stopped.

Um what would have happened had I been on holiday this week? Considering I have been given under a week to reply The letter itself says I have two weeks to reply. The sticker on it says under a week.

I will be watching DLA payments very carefully for the next few months, and filing the advice letter very carefully. Bizarrely it seems to be being sent to NEW CLAIMS as well

Bet ds1's DLA (which was awarded for life two years ago) is reviewed soon.

Thekidsrule Here's a link with the figures you want. She also links to the DWP's own figures, which I would do for you, but my pc doesn't like pdf files.

MYTHBUSTER (just in case anyone did wonder about Novack's figures)

The "UK mortality rate" is the rate across all ages. But as even a child can tell you, old people die more than young people. A lot more.

The 16 to 60/65 age group, who are the group eligible for ESA, therefore have a much lower mortality rate that the general UK mortality rate.

Ditto cancer rates.

One other bizarre aspect of this - ATOS are an IT company, FFS.

I am so fucking angry about this. Another woman has spent the last few months if her life fighting for her benefits. It is fucking disgusting.

My aunt suffered a similar fate. Her benefits were reduced because her chemotherapy had stopped. IT STOPPED BECAUSE HER BIDY COULDN'T TAKE ANYMORE.

Her benefits were reinstated 3 months later. 2 months after that she died. Her prognosis was terminal from the outset.

Torturing dying people and their families is disgusting. Shame on all who participate in it. I would wish the same fate on them, but I still have my humanity.

That should read BODY.

I don't really get it. With all the money the Govt. are paying ATOS to take benefits away from disabled people, are they really saving anything anyway? If they didn't think the staff already responsible for allocating benefits were doing their jobs properly why didn't they have some sort of crackdown on them rather than employing another company to do the same job? (that's how it seems to me anyway, maybe I've missed something). It all seems a bit fishy.

It's very odd. Even the Torygraph made that point in a link I posted upthread somewhere.

Anybody who doubts how much DLA means to disabled people should read this.

Protests outside ATOS.