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Seven medals but now they want my benefits.

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carernotasaint · 28/08/2012 20:41

blacktrianglecampaign.org/2012/08/28/seven-medals-but-now-the-tories-want-my-benefits-british-paralympic-gold-medalist-tara-flood-speaks-out/

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Dawndonna · 28/08/2012 22:07

Disability Living Allowance is not an out of work benefit, McHappy
She may have a job, her dla would allow her to travel to her job, or training, or whatever. It would cover the extra costs of disability. eg My dhs prespcriptions are around £55. per month.

carernotasaint · 28/08/2012 22:08

flatpack i have posted a HELL of a lot of stuff on the Relationships boards also.

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McHappyPants2012 · 28/08/2012 22:10

But DLA is not tied in with your job, it is to support disabled people.

Zondra · 28/08/2012 22:10

I think the tone on this thread is very aggressive. I'm bewildered frankly!

carernotasaint · 28/08/2012 22:10

And i also use the Chat board quite frequently. Shiny Dave and his antics doesnt dominate my whole life.

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WorraLiberty · 28/08/2012 22:10

So is that it?

She's just being assessed? Confused

Bit of a non story at this point don't you think?

youngermother1 · 28/08/2012 22:10

This is not new, introduced by the labour government to assess disability claims - I do not see why this is wrong

saintlyjimjams · 28/08/2012 22:11

These Dispatches clips are worth watching

carernotasaint · 28/08/2012 22:11

Zondra its an expensive time of year........

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flatpackhamster · 28/08/2012 22:11

carernotasaint

And i also use the Chat board quite frequently. Shiny Dave and his antics doesnt dominate my whole life.

It must just look like it to someone who doesn't go in to the relationships and chat boards.

Still, if copying and pasting large swathes of the internet is what thrills you, knock yourself out.

JumpingThroughMoreHoops · 28/08/2012 22:12

Just going tangent for a moment - post war there were a lot of people with a disability working. Successive legislation has made that more difficult for people who want to work, plus of course cut backs and stream lining.

The "Posh" department store when I was growing up, had a lift attendant, bedecked in gold braid, hat and white gloves. But he was missing a leg. But he had employment. Now a days we push our own buttons in lifts, or probably get the escalator and the salary cost of a concierge would be prohibitive where we look for bargains and shops cut margins.

I suppose a lot of red tape was passed designed to help those with disabilities, but in reality it caused employers more an more problems and expense. The lift attendant in the department store probably didn't have use of a disabled toilet - today there would have to be one installed regardless of whether it was actually required or not.

Often what is designed to help had the adverse effect because it ends up marginalising people.

McHappyPants2012 · 28/08/2012 22:13

I am not meaning to sound negitive. I think it is a disgrace that some one with a missing limb or a hidden disability have to be assessed. The missing limb is not going to grow back

ravenAK · 28/08/2012 22:13

well, I'd like to thank you for making me aware of this actually, carer.

ATOS sponsoring the Paralympics? Unbelievable. Sad Angry.

saintlyjimjams · 28/08/2012 22:13

Guardian article on DLA

nancy75 · 28/08/2012 22:14

If she goes to the assessment and they agree that all the benefits she gets now are fine will there be another story telling us that? Along the lines of they didn't want my benefits after all?

Zondra · 28/08/2012 22:15

What is wrong with the Op posting a link to something?
We've all done it, surely?
I'm also feeling confused at the harsh tone from some posters towards the Op. :(

saintlyjimjams · 28/08/2012 22:17

Atos are going to be carrying out PIP assessments which is rather worrying.

DS1 was awarded higher rate care and higher rate mobility (DLA) for life a few years ago. I expect him to be back to having to be assessed every few years once he moves onto a PIP (because of course his disability is going to magically disappear).

Atos sponsoring the paralympics is like some sort of sick joke. Angry

SerialKipper · 28/08/2012 22:18

The benefit Tara Flood is talking is Disability Living Allowance, an in-work benefit. It helps defray the extra costs incurred by being disabled.

She may well be working. But need to pay for equipment or people to allow her to do her job. She may also need assistance at home for basic stuff like washing, preparing food, etc. She can swim but she probably can't wipe her own arse, for example.

And one of the big problems with the new assessment is that the intention is to reassess everyone, and keep reassessing them. In this case, they will discover that her arms haven't grown back. Each and every time. And ATOS will pocket taxpayers money, each and every time.

For people whose conditions are similarly permanent but who struggle with constant pain and exhaustion, whose conditions are exacerbated by stress, the cost of each ATOS assessment will be to their health as well as to the taxpayer.

There is a winner here, but it ain't the disabled and it ain't taxpayer...

Kayano · 28/08/2012 22:18

But you don't just post a link, you say your thoughts, ask what others think, generally, you know, post about what they are linking to

saintlyjimjams · 28/08/2012 22:19

Agree zondra - although the Guardian article I linked to does say:

What is disturbing is the suggestion that this is down to fraud and abuse. The DWP's own estimates put fraud at 0.5%. There isn't a 30% of abuse of DLA," he said. There has been a rise in verbal abuse of disabled people, which is inflamed by comments like these which suggest that people are on the fiddle, when actually they have a higher cost of living. The language used, and the assumption that there is a large level of fraud and abuse will inflame hostility towards disabled people. Around one-third of disabled people already live in poverty, because of the higher cost of living associated with disability. With councils also making cuts to the amount they spend on supporting disabled people, Coyle warns that the savings-driven reform of DLA is likely to cause real hardship. DLA is not an out-of-work benefit, and many people use the money to help subsidise the extra costs of getting to work. Disability Rights UK estimates that at least 25,000 people could be forced to give up their work as a result of the drive to restrict payments, pushing up unemployment payments.

Dawndonna · 28/08/2012 22:19

No Nancy there won't be. But there will be when they award my dh benefits, the ones they took off him recently, because apparently he can walk. Despite the fact that they have consultants letters (two different consultants) along with letters from the GP and a list of the drugs he takes, some of which are controlled drugs, which is in itself an indication of the severity of the disability. I'll post on here. Then there is the fact that nobody saw him walk without the use of a stick on one side, and me supporting him on the other.

saintlyjimjams · 28/08/2012 22:20

Plenty of people just post a link, then come back and comment later.

SerialKipper · 28/08/2012 22:23

Sorry, Jumping how would a disabled-access toilet marginalise people? It has the opposite effect - wheelchair users can actually get out without having to worry about being back in time to go to the loo.

See Frank Gardner's article about having to fast before flying because he won't be able to use plane loos.

Kayano · 28/08/2012 22:24

I've not seen it before and I was pretty Hmm

Especially as there were two threads like this at the same
Time

wolvesdidit · 28/08/2012 22:26

Atos are evil murdering bastards like the Tories. The op is trying to draw your attention to what is happening in our society. It is wicked and not far off what the Nazis were doing. People need to make a stand.