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I THINK I'M GOING TO BE SICK... 11 YEAR OLD RAPED IN SUPERMARKET TOILET!?

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MrsBigD · 07/03/2006 07:11

didn't quite get the full story but it was on the news this morning when I walked into the living room.

What I caught was that an 11 old girl got raped by some youth in the supermarket toilet whilst her mother was not to far away doing the shopping.

FFS what kind of world do we life in where your kids can't even go to the toilet on their own once old enough to find you again in the supermarket?!!

Hope they catch that animal

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MrsBigD · 07/03/2006 13:20

nailpolish... I do the same... with 2 kids incl. buggy it's so much easier... of course we wouldn't bump a disabled person out of the way to get in Grin
so far most toilet attendants have had no problems opening the disabled t's for us. Probably me struggling with desperate dd and ds in pushchair + bags of shopping etc is an image that begs for sympathy LOL

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nailpolish · 07/03/2006 13:24

mrsbigD - i do that too, and if they still dont let me in i growl Wink

i really like baby changing areas that have adult toilets too - i can change dd2's nappy, and dd1 and i can go to the loo

but some baby changing areas dont have a toilet too - so you have to go to the baby changing area THEN to the toilets - v. annoying and a PITA

nutcracker · 07/03/2006 13:33

OMG that is so awful.

I have often sent the dd's to the toilet on their own together in the supermarket.

desperateSCOUSEwife · 07/03/2006 13:35

kids just arent safe no more
without someone minding them
truly horrid and Sad

staceym11 · 07/03/2006 13:54

i felt sick, i was raped at age 14 and feel terrible for this little girl, i was a bit older and wiser and already sexually active so it made it a bit easier (not that it was easy in the slightest)

this poor little girl and her family, i hope he gets caught, but also in a way hope he is put through the same as he put that poor little girl through once hes inside.

i do worry at the state of the world im bringing children into!!!!

MillionDollarBaby · 07/03/2006 14:07

Just heard the mother on the radio lunch news - poor poor woman, poor poor child! Just awful.. she'll never get over it, she'll always have issues about using public loos etc.. just can't begin to imagine.

I agree ultimately though with Enid et al.

Would not encourage children to use public loos outside shops generally (particularly parks etc)

JennyLee · 07/03/2006 15:23

It is not so much that I think if ds goes on his own he will be attacked it is to stop me feeling apprehensive for the few minutes he is in the toilets, why make myself worry obviously he will go on his own at some point but it makes me uncomfortable, even before this happened, as when my dad was a small boy a pervert tryed to catch him in the public toilets and my granny ran in just in time.

LunarSea · 07/03/2006 15:47

OMG - this happened just down the road from me. I even use that supermarket sometimes. Far too close to home for comfortShock

overdraft · 07/03/2006 16:27

My ds1 is nearly 10 and i won't let him go to the toliet on his own.Strangly enopugh a boy was assaulted in the sainsbury toliet here about 8 years ago and it has stuck in my mind.DH and i have had rows over this and i will show him this thread tonight.He thinks I over react.He let him go upstairs to mc Donalds when he was five.He got locked in the toliet and they had to get him out.I said why weren't you with him and he said "Because i was just about to be served".I went mad.
How very very sad for that poor mum and daughter.I agree though busy supermarket and all.This world scares me though because things like this and other crimes don't happen down dark alleys and in the dark anymore.They have no fear

prettybird · 07/03/2006 16:48

I'm with Gomez et al: shocking as this even was, the odds of it happening are still, in my opionion (and everyone has different views) lower than the importance of encouraging independence in your children - and teaching them to judge situations and become streetwise. You can't be with thme forever.

Ds is 5.5 and already I let him go into toilets on his own, with me lurking close by with my heart in my mouth. If he is in for too long, I do get worried - and watch anyoen going in with a suspicious mind - but the pride he shows as he skips out at having been "allowed" to do this is worth it. I will still make a judgement call and in some places insist he goes into the Ladies with me, if dh is not with me.

PeachyClair · 07/03/2006 17:06

DS will only go in the mens loos, because of AS and it's his rules etc. Scares me every time, I hang around outside taking mental pics of anyone going in and counting people in and out

But it's unlikely to happen to him and it DID happen to this poor girl Sad. Poor, poor mite.

I notice that the shop ahd an after school place, sounds like a paedo getting his kicks to me Sad Sad Sad

paolosgirl · 07/03/2006 17:14

This is awful...just so, so, sad. Apparently, she managed to give the police a very good description of the bastard, so hoepfully they will pick him up. He'll probably be well known the the Community Police for that area...

It's very hard to know what to do. My sensible head tells me that they are more likely to be killed in a car crash or die of some awful disease, but my emotional head finds it hard to accept that. I think the automatic reaction is to want to stop them doing anything, but I guess a measured approach is best.

Poor, poor girl and her family Sad

batters · 07/03/2006 17:34

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roisin · 07/03/2006 17:40

This is absolutely horrific. In my mind a supermarket is a "very safe" place - it would never occur to me to be suspicious there. My boys have certainly been to the loo on their own at a supermarket when they were just 3 or 4.

Batters - I think everyone just has to do what feels right to them. Personally I loathe "public amenity toilets" - by car parks or playgrounds that sort of thing, and am very suspicious of them. I usually insist the boys go in together (they are 6 and 8), and only if ds2 is desperate and there is absolutely no alternative. But other places (cinema, theatre, supermarket, shops, etc.) ds2 skips off quite happily on his own.

Fullmoonfiend · 07/03/2006 18:18

I must admit, my boys go to the supermarket/cinema/etc loo by themselves (8 and 5) but I usually send 8 yr old with 5 year old. And I tend to tell them to go to the ladies - I sort of felt it would be safer after a dodgy man in a gents loo made inappropriate comments to my son. there are sensible precautions that i generally take but do agree with others who say the risk of harm is IMO smaller than the risks of over-protecting children. So sad for this mum and her daughter though. They will never get over it.

Hulababy · 07/03/2006 20:52

It's so horrid. That poor girl, and her mum. Only person to blame is the evil monster who did it. That poor mum, blaming herself :(

DD is not quite 4yo so at the moment that is no way on this earth I would ever send her into a public toilet, anywhere, on her own.

7up · 07/03/2006 21:14

this was unbelievable, that poor poor girl must have been absolutely terrified, it doesnt bear thinking about. ive not got a daughter but do have an 11year old ds who up till the age of 9 i always worried about him going in to public toilets on his own incase there was a dirty old man in there. i still worry now, and even more so after this

magicfarawaytree · 07/03/2006 21:50

I make will continue to make my kids use the disabled toilets for as long as I can. On that programme about police protecting children they showed footage at a boat show at olympia or somewhere similar of a know paedaphile who went in the mens toilets and was in there in a cubicle for ages. The same man had been caught hiding in a primary school toilet with rope etc in his backpack. incidently he was wearing this at the boat show. they showed a young boy skipping into the toilet and there was as sickening wait whilst they waited for the lad to reappear, i think in the end they sent someone in but they boy was ok. they paed then left the toilet. Since then I am determined that I will not allow them to go into the toilet alone.

7up · 08/03/2006 08:49

cor magic thats really bad, im def gona tell even my 11year old to be extra vigilent,

nailpolish · 08/03/2006 10:36

teh poor mother is on this morning now Sad

WideWebWitch · 08/03/2006 10:39

This is so terrible, I heard it on the news last night.

4blue1pink · 08/03/2006 10:43

bloody men....

nailpolish · 08/03/2006 10:44

from wht the mother si saying her daughter sounds so brave

WideWebWitch · 08/03/2006 10:46

I've been letting my 8yo ds go into mens loos for a while now. I may start making him come into the ladies with me. I know it's illogical too but if Sainsbury's isn't safe fgs...

nailpolish · 08/03/2006 10:47

i think they will catch him

the girl has been so brave and given the police a very detailed description

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