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Saddam Husain

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hmb · 14/12/2003 11:21

I've just heared the news that he has been captured, alive. DNA tests have been done and proven it is him, and Irquis are celibrating. And to be honest, so am I.

I don't believe in capital punishment, but I will not shed any tears over this one if the Irqaui people disagree with me.

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whymummy · 14/12/2003 11:27

thanks hmb,fantastic news!!!!i'm off to put the news on

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hmb · 14/12/2003 11:30

That was my thought too!

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Forestfly · 14/12/2003 11:32

Excellent news, sorry kids playhouse disneys going off, cheers hmb, and heres to world peace

bossykate · 14/12/2003 12:01

dh says that will be the end of the insurgency. god, i hope so.

M2T · 14/12/2003 12:03

REally???? IS it true though??? I haven't seen anything about it!

Fingerscrossed

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hmb · 14/12/2003 12:06

Tip off frim the Kurds, he was found in a caller. DNA proves it!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so relieved! Got the bastard!

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janh · 14/12/2003 12:31

BBC News page He must have been in that cellar ever since he disappeared - look at the beard! Bet he is quaking. Bastard.

musica · 14/12/2003 12:47

FANTASTIC NEWS.

emmatmg · 14/12/2003 12:52

Blimey, I am amazed. Something has actually gone to plan.....just a bloody shame it took so long and so many lives.

BadHair · 14/12/2003 12:56

Now that he's banged up perhaps our glorious western leaders would like to turn their attention to other nations that have human rights problems. Only as long as there's oil involved, mind. No point in "liberating the oppressed" unless there's a buck to be made.
Anyone want to bet on how long till Saddam's brought to trial? Or do you think they'll stick him in Guantanamo Bay to wait his turn like everyone else?

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hmb · 14/12/2003 13:04

Yes, Emma, it is a great shame that we didn't go into Iraq at the end of the first Gulf war and finised that regime that time. But the will of most of the world wasn't there. I'm just so thankful that this was done without firing a shot.

One is better than none, regardless of the resons behind it.

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twiglett · 14/12/2003 14:32

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Forestfly · 14/12/2003 14:35

skin or hair in his palace ?

emmatmg · 14/12/2003 14:36

didn't they have some(DNA) from the first gulf war, still not sure how they got it though. maybe from a genentic link to his sons.........?

BadHair · 14/12/2003 14:36

I think his dna was from other family members who are alive but not best pleased with him (remember his daughters trying to claim asylum in the UK?) They used this to identify his sons (Uday and the other one who's name I can't remember) when they were killed earlier this year.

donnie · 14/12/2003 16:13

excellent news! and so what if they stick him in Guantanemo bay? it's better that being tortured and nerve gassed, which is what he's done to about 800,000 people.Oh, and not to mention invading Kuwait, Iran.......having his daughters' husbands murdered ( they dared to attempt to claim asylum overseas) and many other crimes.The irony is, IMO, he'll be well treated and comfortable now that he's been captured.Personally I feel he ought to be treated as he's treated others but that's a bit cruel I suppose.......yet I can't help believing that some people really do give up any rights to be treated as vaguely human and he's one of them.

roscoe · 14/12/2003 16:19

I have a feeling that there will be a lot of arguments about where he should be tried. The US will want their say, the Iraqi people will want a trial in Iraq, and others will say it should be somewhere neutral.

zebra · 14/12/2003 16:21

Didn't SH try to or succeed in killing one of his sons-in-law? I could see his DD donating some DNA in that case. I just hope this means a stop to some of the more brutal attacks that are just about causing misery & chaos.

BadHair · 14/12/2003 16:26

My point re Saddam's trial was that it will be pretty speedy and conducted to the letter of the law, unlike for those in Guanatamo Bay who allegedly committed crimes nearly 2 years ago and are still awaiting trial in appalling conditions.
Personally I suspect that the outcome of his "trial" will be pre-approved by george bush, and will therefore be a mockery of any notion of justice or democracy.

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hmb · 14/12/2003 17:29

Nice to see that you also have an open mind Badhair. Where would suit you? Doubtless you would object to the USA, you'd probably say that Iraq would be pressured by the US and similarly the UN. Can anyone doubt that this dreadful man isresponsible for the deaths of thousands of his own people , let alone the Iranians and Kuwatis that he killed? If he is tried in Iraq they are far more likley to kill him than if he goes to the States or the UN. Personaly I think he has the right to be tried in the country that he comitted his crimes, so Iraq would be the best place to send him.

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BadHair · 14/12/2003 17:39

Totally agree that Iraq should be the country to try him, with an Iraqi judge and jury and subject to Iraqi law.
However, my point is that this man is such a trophy for Bush and Blair that he is unlikely to get this. His trial will undoubtedly be a show trial, and the outcome will be sanctioned by America - can you imagine how embarrassing it would be for the US if an Iraqi jury somehow found him innocent. No, they take no chances and will stage manage the affair to suit their own interests.
And I've no doubt that he will be held in relative comfort until he reaches court.
My personal gut feeling is that he should be strung from a bit of cheesewire from the highest remaining building in Baghdad, but we're meant to be showing how democracy works in the west so unfortunately we have to refrain.

zebra · 14/12/2003 17:41

You're confusing me, Badhair. You seem to argue that a show trial is wrong, and then say the man should obviously be strung up by a cheese wire -- so why do you care about a trial at all?

I'd like him to have a fair trial for genocide, and then get punished when/if dare I say if??? found guilty.

turnupthebass · 14/12/2003 17:45

Very good news. and won't George and Tony be so pleased too!
I am very surprised that there was no resistance put up - especially as he had machine guns and two other people with him?

The trial situation is going to be very interesting indeed - won't it be some sort of international court? where were the others that have been captured taken?

BadHair · 14/12/2003 17:56

My gut feeling is that he should be strung up, but I recognise that whatever he's done the man has a right to a fair trial.
My gut feeling is based on what I have read in the media, which is not necessarily fact and is quite likely to be propaganda.
I would like to think that at his trial the truth would come out and the world would know just what he has or hasn't done, but what I am saying is that a show trial would most probably just generate more propaganda.
Let's face it, the war in Iraq was not about human rights issues (there are dictators in the world with equal if not worse human rights records) but about the control of oil supplies, but Bush, Blair et al choose to use it as a political photo opportunity.
Anyway, I am glad the man's been captured, just cynical about how his fate and that of Iraq will be handled.

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hmb · 14/12/2003 18:01

THey e set up a court in Iraq (last week I think). I think that US/UK will hand him over to the Iraqis. They are far more likely to carry out the death sentence, and it will give the Iraqis more confidence that they will be taking control of their own country. Hwill get justice (of a kind), far more that the bastard deserves. Rough justice would be for him to be dropped into Halabja (sp sorry)

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