What punishment do you think the British legal system would deem appropriate for someone who rapes a 5 year old?

[Mintyy]

I'm not going to link because I saw this in the Daily Mail. But, really, am truly horrified.

I am so sorry dotty.

I haven't read anywhere about him getting ANY punishment!, not that any of that would equal what the child is going through anyway.
Imagine the years she will spend damaged by what he has done and there could be a high chance of him walking past her on the street
Tbh i hope someone gets the sick b* because the law isn't going to
I agree with previous posters, he has got away with it because he is "upper" class, if he was of a "working" class or "lower" class they would have him locked up like a shot!!-well i don't give a flying pig about what "background" he comes from, he NEEDS locking up to save LITTLE children from his vile practices!!!
A 14yo is only 2yrs shy of 16 KNOWS not to rape little children.
Im angered so much by the news today and my thoughts are with that poor child and her family not that vile excuse for a monster

The 14 year old is just as much a victim - I can't even imagine how useless the 14 year olds parents are. Nothing to do with anything apart from pornography and parents who don't supervise children properly.

Very soon I expect parents to be prosecuted for allowing children unlimited access to the internet.

sorry Dotty xx

Laurie thats a load of twaddle lots of child sex offenders are under 16 and believe it or not come from all walks of life doesn't stop them damaging children for life.

Oh don't pull that crap LaurieFairyCake, how many people watch porn and never rape anyone?, how many watch violent films and play games and never hurt anyone?.

The facts are simple some people are born bastards, self centred selfish arseholes, psychopaths are born not made by the media. by excusing their actions you play into their hands, allowing them to be let off or given a lighter sentence.

We are all responsible for our own actions no one else.

Blaming the parents is such a cop-out.
I heard earlier on the telly some stats (can't remember the exact numbers) but a vast majority of older children had seen online porn and many accessed it regularly.
This is a problem that goes across society. It is everywhere, if your parents block it your friends won't, or there'll be a phone, or something. They get hold of it, as young people got hold of magazines and things when I was young.

And as for "the 14yo is just as much a victim" - oh the poor love sought out hardcore porn and watched it and then went out and raped a 5 year old child. Yes of course he's as much a victim (WTF).

That argument might hold water with other notorious child criminals I can think of (who incidentally felt the full force of the law) but there is no suggestion here that he was being abused himself or similar.

Of course watching porn at a young age is damaging for our young people but it does not excuse raping reception children FFS.

I agree that this judge must be of pretty dubious character and perhaps shares many interests of the 14 year old boy. Obviously I am trying to speak subtly. I would love him to read this thread. Can someone do the twitter thing and re-tweet?

The 14yr old is not just as much as a victim. It is offensive to the 5yr old that he raped to even suggest so.

Fgs what utter bollocks Fairy, he is no victim, he is a child rapist pure and simple

I can see house prices bombing in cambridge as people realise the rapists and sex offenders will be moving in. It's a safe haven with Judge Gareth in charge.

The other thing that worries me on this is the judge saying it was a one off how does anyone know it wasn't just the fact he'd been caught, for all anyone knows she might not be his first victim they only have his word for that.

So let's be clear. People on this thread are accusing the Judge in this case of being a pedophile. Because he has a beard, presumably?

Not because of his beard, because of his namby pamby soft sentencing along with his evil looking eyes

Exactly Dotty, what about children that don't yet talk-what if this isn't the first time???-his mum was a childminder too so that would have given him a lot of oppurtunitys

The judge does appear to have a track record of going extraordinarily easy on child sex offenders.

He is not the first judge to have shown poor judgement in cases like these. I'm sure he won't be the last.

The judge is an idiot

There is really no point in turning this into a bleeding-heart liberal vs hard-nosed tory thread. It's not that clear cut.

The 'punishment' this teenager got for orally raping a 5 year old is extraordinary. I am very surprised by it. Yes perhaps he'll feel shame, embarrassment etc, but so do many others who also get custodial sentences.

I don't necessarily think the lad should be locked away, but I do think he deserves more than a slap on the wrist.

I think it's a bit bizarre too. However we do not have access to all the evidence and reports. presumably the will be an appeal?

However, the lock 'em up and throw away the key brigade are pretty distasteful too. This is a 14 year old child we are talking about.

And to accuse the judge of being a pedophile is disgraceful.

It's the person who gets convicted who appeals, seeker.
Not the victim.

Or do you mean you think the boy's lawyers will appeal against his sentence / conviction?

So Laurie? If that was ur dd would you be happy with the outcome? And what if the resulting stress cost u your job your marriage your home and your kids secure future would it still be ok then just cos his background was a bit ropey ? People get more for crimes that physically don't harm anyone and he walked free after a rape.

Don't mind the cut n' paste, seeker.

People seem to be stuck on this either/or stance i.e. victim or offender. Their needs are not mutually exclusive and are NOT in competition with each other. But this is reflective of the messed up notion we have of criminal justice in this society, which encourages conflict, where no-one's best interest is served by it.

This judge does seem to have some 'questionable' decisions behind him, (tho' that last one quoted by Wellies is inconclusive -it was a bail/remand decision with a warning he could still go to prison despite whatever the psychy report said), but as a few people have said we do not have the full disclosure, and never do, unless you sit in court everyday and have access to all reports prepared.
And personalising a fantasy about whether it's your child being victim is utterly fatuous and unfair.

SQ - the Attorney-General can be canvassed to review the sentence and allow an appeal in the public interest - but I thought this was well known?

People get more for crimes that physically don't harm anyone and he walked free after a rape.

There is no suggestion that he did physically harm her.

If that was ur dd would you be happy with the outcome? From what I've read, I would say that the girl has a much better chance of a good outcome than the boy.