What punishment do you think the British legal system would deem appropriate for someone who rapes a 5 year old?

[Mintyy]

I'm not going to link because I saw this in the Daily Mail. But, really, am truly horrified.

Rape in this case does not mean Penis in Vagina.

He put his penis in her mouth. The sentencing guidelines upthread suggest that he didn't ejaculate, otherwise it would have been aggravated rape.

So castration or life imprisonment, no.

I don't think he 'got off' with this at all. Or that the judge has said it isn't a serious offence as has been alleged. The shame, the apparently genuine demonstration of remorse, the public outing, the shifting of schools the further social ostricisation, the family shame and embarrassment, the permanent criminal record which he MUST reveal when applying for jobs as an adult or poss. get sacked for noty doing so, the limited opp. in these circs. to have a relationship wit han adult female in years to come. Not mentinoing the group-work on his sexual dysfunction. Nope, 'no getting away' with it there.

ThePan-all very well said but i don't think its enough and i bet if his name gets out he will be given a new name identity, be under police protection, moved to a safe house etc so he has got away with it.
Putting a penis in a small childs mouth is still RAPE to whomever pointed it out!
He needs to be locked up for life at the very least as what he did is pure vile and beyond a normal persons reckoning

If this 14yr old boy can't control his sexual urges (he seems to have received a non custodial sentence because the rape wasnt pre-meditated) then he sounds like he is a very dangerous sexual predator. The next good opportunity he gets he will take it.

Still, he obviously has very good lawyers. Shame the victims family aren't allowed to hire very good lawyers when it comes to the sentencing.

I wouldn't want the judge babysitting.

Me neither TheCrack, hate to judge on looks alone but he does look rather hmm weird and he sentences nonces very leniently.
I put money on him being of the same character as that of the 14yo

Jesus wept. Not bloody "gut instinct" again. Watch out paediatricians- they're after you!

pumpkinsweetie - you are mistaken on the thresholds applied to identity-reassigning. This boy is nowhere near that level,and all the points I alluded to remain relevant. It's a bit unfortunate you say you hate to judge by appearances ( possibly because that would make you narrow-minded and shallow) but then go on to judge by appearances.

The sentences linked to are shocking. On that basis I'd suggest he needs retraining, but in this case he was IMO right.

Disgusting that he got away with it, 14 or not exposed to porn or not it is vile and disgusting.

If I was that little girls mother I would rip him apart with my bare hands

Not like he will get new identity, new home probably got found a job police protection and all that stuff the little girl got no police protection all paid for by us! Once again the criminal has more rights and protection than the victim :(

Hope you don't mind, Pan- c&p
"I don't think he 'got off' with this at all. Or that the judge has said it isn't a serious offence as has been alleged. The shame, the apparently genuine demonstration of remorse, the public outing, the shifting of schools the further social ostricisation, the family shame and embarrassment, the permanent criminal record which he MUST reveal when applying for jobs as an adult or poss. get sacked for noty doing so, the limited opp. in these circs. to have a relationship wit han adult female in years to come. Not mentinoing the group-work on his sexual dysfunction. Nope, 'no getting away' with it there."

Exactly WheresMyCaffiene!!! That is just what i was trying to say, basically the victim has next to no rights and the criminal-ie 14yo peadophile/rapist gets of scot free and will be protected using our taxes whilst he is free to continue along the same vile path and destroy another little girl or a little boys life.
I cannot believe a person or a teen that rapes a little child can be re-habilitated as they are programmed to have desires for a childs body.
No excuses should be made for him he has done something extremely vile and even if he was one of my family i would want to see him punished

He should be surving life in a nut house IMO

Does anyone else think that he may have got off more lightly because he was the son of "a businessman" dressed in his school uniform in the dock?

Horrifying that the judge seems to think that it's OK if a teen "can't control their hormones" and hasn't been taught right from wrong

This case is all bullshit anyway.

a 14 year old is not a child, 200 years ago a 14 year old would be married with kids himself, he's bright enough to know what he's doing no excuses, the whole porn defence is bollocks, this wasn't a 12 year old he raped it was a five year old.

Who blamed porn for his actions? was it he himself trying to blame others for his action, everything all ways someone elses fault.

This is a sick fuck nothing more taking advantage of a small child he could easily dominate, just as many killers start off hurting animals, we ain't heard the last of this sick fuck.

Shame on the judge that idiot needs sacking.

I am thoroughly shocked that some people think this boy is being sufficiently punished by his sentence of sweet F A! What's the point of something even being illegal if we don't reprimand those who do it? He's 14 not 4, he knew it was morally repugnant, he is a danger to this little girl and to others, the fact that he will haves to let other people know that on job applications is the very very least of it. Why are people so bloody compassionate for rapists?!!

Ryoko, i don't think this is the last we will hear of him either, very worrying!

And what about that little girl? Is someone gonna find her a new safe home ? Provide family counselling to the parents who must be in absolute pieces, who's gonna protect them from the taunts and the hate mail from sickos who think they have ruined a boys life or the kids at school who get hold of it years down the line and call that poor baby all sorts of names :( y do they have to live with this while the law protects the sick freak who did this? The boy isn't having to live with anything more than that poor little girl does and it's wrong he should be properly formally punished!

You will always get do-gooders, maybe that is the deep root of our poor justice system and why we have so many of these creatures walking amongst us without us knowing

If he was a 14 year old from council estate who watched a lot of gangster films then stabbed someone (not fatally) do you think he would have gotten off so lightly? I think not.

I know a man who as a boy tied up a guy and threatened him with a knive for trespassing on the railway, (didn't hurt the guy) he got looked up for many years.

It seems to me that woman no matter how young are only there to be exploited by men, she only got forced to suck a bit of cock whats wrong with that? fucking joke.

"The shame, the apparently genuine demonstration of remorse, the public outing, the shifting of schools the further social ostricisation, the family shame and embarrassment, the permanent criminal record which he MUST reveal when applying for jobs as an adult or poss. get sacked for noty doing so, the limited opp. in these circs. to have a relationship wit han adult female in years to come. Not mentinoing the group-work on his sexual dysfunction"

Are you involved in the case?
The things I have read says nothing about any of those things.
I have not read anywhere that he has been publicly outed, that he has had to move schools, anything like that.

As I said before- I'll remind people of this the next time there's a mass of people saying that 14 year olds are too young to be left at home alone for 30 minutes, or travel on public transport, or be held responsible for their own behaviour at school.

Life and throw the fucking key away I was raped by my so called brother from the age of 4 or younger until I was 12