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Mumsnet, will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? And call upon the FA to kick sexism out of football?

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BasilFoulEggs · 29/04/2012 23:13

Dear Mumsnet
As you are no doubt aware, there has been the most extraordinary hate campaign waged this week by some football fans, against a rape victim in the wake of the Ched Evans Guilty Verdict.

The jist of the hatespeak, has been that a drunk woman has no right to expect the basic human right of not having her body penetrated without her active participation in that sexual act, or even her passive consent. Presumably because men (or at least footballers and their friends) have the right to penetrate women who are incapable of consent. And that if a man rapes you, it is because you are a slut, a slag and all the other hate-speak words used to de-humanise women and make it easier for people not to empathise with us when we are abused.

This week has seen the really ugly spectacle, of a bunch of men asserting their right to rape women, handmaidens supporting that right and both of them sending out a clear warning to all other rape victims, to know what to expect if they dare to pursue justice if they are raped.

If there had been a similar outpouring of hatred against any other historically oppressed group, the rest of the media would have been tearing their hair out analysing why some men hated this group so much, where the hatred came from, why it existed, what could be done about it; but ironically apart from the Daily Fail, there has been very little comment in response to the Twitter hate-campaign. If Twitter had buzzed with indignation at the jailing of the man who posted hate-speak about Fabrice Muamba, I?ve no doubt that the FA would have tracked down the posters and banned them from football matches. Because they?re busy kicking racism out of football. Sexism, though, is fine. They can give a bloody award to a convicted rapist, while their supporters conduct what must be a terrifying hate campaign against his teenage victim? right now, football fans don?t look all that much better than the Taliban, do they?

Mumsnet, will you use the voice you have against this horrible hate campaign? Will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? Will you ask the FA to state publicly, that they too, believe her and that in future, they will work as hard to kick sexism out of football, as they do to kick racism out?

Thank You.

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Treats · 01/05/2012 14:39

I believe her

wilderumpus · 01/05/2012 14:39

I believe her.

The courage she has shown is just amazing and I just hope she is ok.

There has to start to be some acknowledgement by the FA of institutionalised misogyny and this seems a great way to push for it, well done and thanks OP.

swallowedAfly · 01/05/2012 14:39

oh god! someone who lives in that area needs to start a boycott thread in the local mn section - voters need to know what they're electing. what an arsehole! any disciplinary action i wonder? with mps saying this shit what hope is there of decent convictions?

SardineQueen · 01/05/2012 14:40

Well fuck Mr Elvish then and I hope he loses his deposit.

BeauNash · 01/05/2012 14:40

I believe her.

sc13 · 01/05/2012 14:41

I believe her, and so did the jury.

pinkpyjamas · 01/05/2012 14:43

Ooooh, Mr Elvish - fancy coming on MN for a webchat to clarify your position?
It is vital that prospective politicians are open to healthy debate about their views, surely?

ProcrastinateWildly · 01/05/2012 14:45

Mr Elvish should resign...

StrandedBear · 01/05/2012 14:45

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Alcina · 01/05/2012 14:46

Here's the link

ProcrastinateWildly · 01/05/2012 14:46

Who do we complain to about Mr Elvish then?

SarahBumBarer · 01/05/2012 14:50

I believe her

JustFab · 01/05/2012 14:50

*"Most girls I speak to say they wouldn?t say no to Ched Evans, anyway..."

Museum worker Mr Elvish is due to stand as a Liberal Democrat in the Basingstoke and Deane Borough Council election next week."*

Bloody hell! Angry.

Can someone tweet it to Mr Nick Clegg?

Alcina · 01/05/2012 14:50

"Most girls I speak to say they wouldn?t say no to Ched Evans, anyway"

Just Shock Shock Shock

swallowedAfly · 01/05/2012 14:51

we need a sackelvish hastag

Nyac · 01/05/2012 14:53

Get the feeling Mr Elvish doesn't speak to many girls.

Lib Dems are awful.

TotesAmaze · 01/05/2012 14:55

I believe her

Atreegrowsinbrooklyn · 01/05/2012 14:55

Unfortunately Mr Evilish, Chad Evans wasn't having sex with any of the 'most girls who wouldn't say no'.

Chad Evans raped a girl who did not say yes.

BIG difference.......

There are no words to convey my total disgust for you, Mr Evil-ish.

swallowedAfly · 01/05/2012 14:56

who knew how bad the lib dems were till they got their little coalition moment in the spotlight!?!?

back into obscurity they shall go never to return again if anyone has more than a 5min memory.

Tokamak · 01/05/2012 14:57

I believe her.

Mr Elvish, you are a world class bellend.

Modan · 01/05/2012 14:57

I believe her

crazygracieuk · 01/05/2012 14:58

I believe her too.

MsVestibule · 01/05/2012 14:59

I believe her. The PFA and the FA should be hanging their heads in shame at the disgraceful way they have handled this.

rocketupbum · 01/05/2012 15:00

I believe her, I post incredibly rarely and am not on FB but felt I had to post say something and join the numbers. I watch a lot of football and am feeling more and more disillusioned with the entire system. Nice work ladies.

shaztwins1 · 01/05/2012 15:00

I BELIEVE HER TOO

there was more than one RAPIST in that hotel room that night !!!

she may well have consented to have sex with clayton mcdonald earlier in the night when NOT COMPLETLY OFF HER FACE but she was in no fit state to say otherwise by this time so in my eyes was not fit to consent either surely this is RAPE also and as for the other people standing outside filming they are no better than the RAPISTS either (but then they are male and footballers/friends of footballers so its ok ???)
I think he is a low life having to be called by a "friend " to get cheap thrills from a near unconcious woman !!! and im sorry but if i was that hotel receptionist id have more than a few alarm bells ringing in my ears after a "friend " was also called in it takes 2 seconds to knock on a door to see if someone is ok if your worried about them ffs !!!
its ok having sympathy after its happened but he may well have been able to prevent further distress to that poor girl

I unfortunatly live right smack bang in an area with numerous football clubs around and not too far from where this all happened i hope to god my young dd doesnt have the misfortune to meet any of these so called men when she is older.

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