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Mumsnet, will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? And call upon the FA to kick sexism out of football?

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BasilFoulEggs · 29/04/2012 23:13

Dear Mumsnet
As you are no doubt aware, there has been the most extraordinary hate campaign waged this week by some football fans, against a rape victim in the wake of the Ched Evans Guilty Verdict.

The jist of the hatespeak, has been that a drunk woman has no right to expect the basic human right of not having her body penetrated without her active participation in that sexual act, or even her passive consent. Presumably because men (or at least footballers and their friends) have the right to penetrate women who are incapable of consent. And that if a man rapes you, it is because you are a slut, a slag and all the other hate-speak words used to de-humanise women and make it easier for people not to empathise with us when we are abused.

This week has seen the really ugly spectacle, of a bunch of men asserting their right to rape women, handmaidens supporting that right and both of them sending out a clear warning to all other rape victims, to know what to expect if they dare to pursue justice if they are raped.

If there had been a similar outpouring of hatred against any other historically oppressed group, the rest of the media would have been tearing their hair out analysing why some men hated this group so much, where the hatred came from, why it existed, what could be done about it; but ironically apart from the Daily Fail, there has been very little comment in response to the Twitter hate-campaign. If Twitter had buzzed with indignation at the jailing of the man who posted hate-speak about Fabrice Muamba, I?ve no doubt that the FA would have tracked down the posters and banned them from football matches. Because they?re busy kicking racism out of football. Sexism, though, is fine. They can give a bloody award to a convicted rapist, while their supporters conduct what must be a terrifying hate campaign against his teenage victim? right now, football fans don?t look all that much better than the Taliban, do they?

Mumsnet, will you use the voice you have against this horrible hate campaign? Will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? Will you ask the FA to state publicly, that they too, believe her and that in future, they will work as hard to kick sexism out of football, as they do to kick racism out?

Thank You.

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StrawberrytallCAKE · 30/04/2012 00:20

Brilliant idea, great post Basil

I believe her.

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iceandsliceplease · 30/04/2012 00:25

I believe her

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MadameMessy · 30/04/2012 00:30

I believe her

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akaemmafrost · 30/04/2012 00:36

I believe her.

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AlfalfaMum · 30/04/2012 00:38

I believe her.

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carernotasaint · 30/04/2012 01:14

I believe her and shes not a slut or a whore.

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SerialKipper · 30/04/2012 01:21

I believe her.

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mathanxiety · 30/04/2012 01:26

Amen

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OneHandWavingFree · 30/04/2012 01:26

I believe her.

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CheerfulYank · 30/04/2012 01:41

I didn't know anything about this because we don't follow football in America, but having read up on it I am disgusted and saddened.

I too was raped as a 19 year old, too drunk to move or speak, let alone consent.

I BELIEVE YOU.

Ched is vile and his girlfriend should be ashamed of herself for "standing by" someone who'd treat another woman this way.

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ravenAK · 30/04/2012 02:26

I believe her.

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thunksheadontable · 30/04/2012 02:38

I believe her.

I also believe that those supporting Ched Evans and his like need to consider carefully why a young man who is reasonably good looking and successful and could easily find a woman who would willingly engage in fun, adult consensual sex would choose to pick out the drunkest girl he could find, text his mate to say he "got" a girl and then have sex in front of his friend, invite him to join in and have it filmed. It is not normal behaviour, it is despicable even without the issue of consent.

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ICutMyFootOnOccamsRazor · 30/04/2012 02:39

I believe her.

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AitchTwoOhOneTwo · 30/04/2012 02:42

i believe you

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Preggersntired · 30/04/2012 02:48

I believe her. Cannot believe the way she has been treated... Gross understatement..

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fridakahlo · 30/04/2012 03:03

I have not come across this, for the same reason as Cheerful Yank, but I have no doubt she is telling the truth, in light of the fact of how hard it is to get the CPS to bring a rapist to trial, let alone get a conviction.
Will the sentence reflect the seriousness of his crime, though?

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madwomanintheattic · 30/04/2012 03:39

I believe her.

Come on mn.

Lifetime ban, whatever the sentence. And the FA need to state that any footballer bringing the sport into disrepute will receive a lifetime ban as well. This happens way too often. Institutional condemnation is required, not tacit acceptance.

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neepsntatties · 30/04/2012 03:48

I believe her.

It would be amazing to see something in the press supporting this girl and taking a stand against the hate campaign she has been subjected to.

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Grumpla · 30/04/2012 03:49

I believe her.

And I also think the FA has a duty to send a message that this kind of behaviour is not just illegal it is unacceptable.

It fucking horrifies me that we live in a society where this kind of crime is seen as some sort of recreational activity.

And what about all the other footballers out there? Why have they not come out in support of this poor woman and condemned the actions of this fucking bastard? In their position I'd want to be sure I wasn't tarred with the same brush. It isn't just women who should be appalled by this, any decent man should be actively campaigning against it too.

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HillyWallaby · 30/04/2012 04:00

I believe her.

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Josiejumpismyname · 30/04/2012 04:11

I Believe Her.

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GColdtimer · 30/04/2012 04:35

I believe her

And great post basil

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Kristina2 · 30/04/2012 04:52

I believe her

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suburbophobe · 30/04/2012 05:01

I believe her.

Poor girl, my heart goes out to her.

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Scatterplot · 30/04/2012 05:49

I believe her. I second the suggestion of a lifetime ban from the FA.

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