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Mumsnet, will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? And call upon the FA to kick sexism out of football?

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BasilFoulEggs · 29/04/2012 23:13

Dear Mumsnet
As you are no doubt aware, there has been the most extraordinary hate campaign waged this week by some football fans, against a rape victim in the wake of the Ched Evans Guilty Verdict.

The jist of the hatespeak, has been that a drunk woman has no right to expect the basic human right of not having her body penetrated without her active participation in that sexual act, or even her passive consent. Presumably because men (or at least footballers and their friends) have the right to penetrate women who are incapable of consent. And that if a man rapes you, it is because you are a slut, a slag and all the other hate-speak words used to de-humanise women and make it easier for people not to empathise with us when we are abused.

This week has seen the really ugly spectacle, of a bunch of men asserting their right to rape women, handmaidens supporting that right and both of them sending out a clear warning to all other rape victims, to know what to expect if they dare to pursue justice if they are raped.

If there had been a similar outpouring of hatred against any other historically oppressed group, the rest of the media would have been tearing their hair out analysing why some men hated this group so much, where the hatred came from, why it existed, what could be done about it; but ironically apart from the Daily Fail, there has been very little comment in response to the Twitter hate-campaign. If Twitter had buzzed with indignation at the jailing of the man who posted hate-speak about Fabrice Muamba, I?ve no doubt that the FA would have tracked down the posters and banned them from football matches. Because they?re busy kicking racism out of football. Sexism, though, is fine. They can give a bloody award to a convicted rapist, while their supporters conduct what must be a terrifying hate campaign against his teenage victim? right now, football fans don?t look all that much better than the Taliban, do they?

Mumsnet, will you use the voice you have against this horrible hate campaign? Will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? Will you ask the FA to state publicly, that they too, believe her and that in future, they will work as hard to kick sexism out of football, as they do to kick racism out?

Thank You.

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SoupDragon · 01/05/2012 12:01

I assume they will appeal on some grounds or other.

SardineQueen · 01/05/2012 12:03

Evans is a rapist.

I agree that a retrial could see him get away with rape. I was shocked that he was convicted in the first place.

I think the other man should have been convicted too.

SardineQueen · 01/05/2012 12:07

retrial/appeal whatever you call it
I don't see him staying in prison
Even though he is a rapist

geekette · 01/05/2012 12:09

My hunch is that most of the people who believe her do not give a toss about FB and FB stats. Better start looking for some other kind of cumulative stat... the number who have signed the PFA petition could be a good place to start. 9000+ and counting

StrandedBear · 01/05/2012 12:22

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MissBetsyTrotwood · 01/05/2012 12:34

I believe her.

JuliaScurr · 01/05/2012 12:35

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BelRowley · 01/05/2012 12:38

I believe her

TwllBach · 01/05/2012 12:41

Is there a way that we can get it trending on Twitter again? Could we all log in at say four hourly intervals and tweet with #ibelieveher or something similar? Does anyone have any blogs that they could use? Journalists/slebs on Twitter?

SardineQueen · 01/05/2012 12:46

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Frontpaw · 01/05/2012 13:05

What was his name again - CLAYTON MCDONALD?

That should push hum up search ratings a little....

swallowedAfly · 01/05/2012 13:07

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FondleWithCare · 01/05/2012 13:10

I believe her.

Frontpaw · 01/05/2012 13:16

How do you spell that?
C L A Y T O N M C D O N A L D?

What was the other chappies' name?

C H E D (stupid name). THE-CONVICTED-RAPIST E V A N S?

WhirlyByrd · 01/05/2012 13:17

I believe her

IMO there are too many of these cases involving footballers and young women. Whether that says that sexual attacks are more prevalant in that environment or if it is indicative of how many assaults go unreported is unclear. However, what is clear is that there is a lack of respect for women amongst many young men, but it seems that for many 'stars' in this sport, women are seen as fair game. I don't want my DS to grow up thinking this attitude is acceptable.

Heyyyho · 01/05/2012 13:19

Those animals are working out that because he scored some "great goals" he could not be guilty.

My God the level of a mind that deduces that.....

somewhereinsummertime · 01/05/2012 13:20

I believe her.....

and I think anyone naming her should be prosecuted. It's illegal and it's a disgrace.

Fishandjam · 01/05/2012 13:21

I believe her. Evans is a rapist.

FeedingTheBirds · 01/05/2012 13:21

I believe her.

BreastmilkDoesAFabLatte · 01/05/2012 13:23

I believe her too.

Procrastinating · 01/05/2012 13:24

I believe her. The poor girl.

Frontpaw · 01/05/2012 13:24

There are too many cases of footballers acting like complete animals full stop. From off the field (rape, assault, drugs...) to on the field (racism, refusing to shake hands, threatening the refs...).

I really don't want my son exposed to this type of behaviour. He loves football. I can't stand it myself but he does watch it. I usually potter around in the ground tutting and saying things like 'he shouldn't argue with the referee, that's not showing him respect...' or 'did you see how that man kicked the other man in the back? That is really really bad...'

I really hate Facebook too. It seems to bring out the worst in some sectors of the community (gerally the illiterate and monosyllabic).

RowanMumsnet · 01/05/2012 13:26

Hi there,

Thought it might be useful to add the details for Rape Crisis here: 0808 802 9999 (freephone helpline), 12 - 2.30pm and 7 - 9.30pm.

Thanks
MNHQ

InAnyOtherSoil · 01/05/2012 13:29

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idealism · 01/05/2012 13:31

I believe her.

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