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Mumsnet, will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? And call upon the FA to kick sexism out of football?

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BasilFoulEggs · 29/04/2012 23:13

Dear Mumsnet
As you are no doubt aware, there has been the most extraordinary hate campaign waged this week by some football fans, against a rape victim in the wake of the Ched Evans Guilty Verdict.

The jist of the hatespeak, has been that a drunk woman has no right to expect the basic human right of not having her body penetrated without her active participation in that sexual act, or even her passive consent. Presumably because men (or at least footballers and their friends) have the right to penetrate women who are incapable of consent. And that if a man rapes you, it is because you are a slut, a slag and all the other hate-speak words used to de-humanise women and make it easier for people not to empathise with us when we are abused.

This week has seen the really ugly spectacle, of a bunch of men asserting their right to rape women, handmaidens supporting that right and both of them sending out a clear warning to all other rape victims, to know what to expect if they dare to pursue justice if they are raped.

If there had been a similar outpouring of hatred against any other historically oppressed group, the rest of the media would have been tearing their hair out analysing why some men hated this group so much, where the hatred came from, why it existed, what could be done about it; but ironically apart from the Daily Fail, there has been very little comment in response to the Twitter hate-campaign. If Twitter had buzzed with indignation at the jailing of the man who posted hate-speak about Fabrice Muamba, I?ve no doubt that the FA would have tracked down the posters and banned them from football matches. Because they?re busy kicking racism out of football. Sexism, though, is fine. They can give a bloody award to a convicted rapist, while their supporters conduct what must be a terrifying hate campaign against his teenage victim? right now, football fans don?t look all that much better than the Taliban, do they?

Mumsnet, will you use the voice you have against this horrible hate campaign? Will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? Will you ask the FA to state publicly, that they too, believe her and that in future, they will work as hard to kick sexism out of football, as they do to kick racism out?

Thank You.

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AnneofGreenFables · 30/04/2012 21:31

I believe her

MamaMary · 30/04/2012 21:33

I believe her. What's not to believe? She won her case.

Ched Evans was found guilty of rape by a court of law. People who are defending him are defending rape. It is sickening. I feel physically sick thinking about it.

Thanks for your campaign MN.

SkaterGrrrrl · 30/04/2012 21:35

I believe her. I hope this powerful thread results in real change.

StrandedBear · 30/04/2012 21:37

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LoopyLoopsTootTootToots · 30/04/2012 21:38

Not sure if it's already been linked, but Huffington Post.

JosephineB · 30/04/2012 21:40

I believe her and I am beyond appalled at her treatment.

skirt · 30/04/2012 21:54

I've always thought there is a gap in the charity market for a proactive, wealthy charity who protect women who have been raped and who get right into the media's face and yell. Rape Crisis are just that, in crisis, it seems and there is nothing to stand up for us.

Us women need to get angry.

JustFab · 30/04/2012 21:55

This thread is amazing. Well done everyone.

While reading this thread I have been thinking why some people are so determined to believe this man is innocent when a woman has said he raped her and a court has agreed with her. I suspect it is because some people are so sure that everyone would want to have sex with a footballer that of course they are in his bed by choice and no way can it be anything but consensual.

I believe you.

Katz · 30/04/2012 21:57

i believe her

Have joined twitter to try and tweet, not really sure of what i'm doing. If someone does then tweeting Toby Foster at the BBC radio sheffield breakfast show might be worth a tweet.

skirt · 30/04/2012 21:58

Justfab it's so mainstream though. That every woman would want a footballer. I worry for my girls, its such a shitty aspiration to have. Like being a WAG is a good thing.

lazymonkeyface · 30/04/2012 21:59

I believe her

MigratingCoconuts · 30/04/2012 22:00

I also believe her

waltermittymissus · 30/04/2012 22:00

I believe her. I'm saddened that this is even necessary.

Why do we still live in a world where women are objectified, used for sexual gratification, treated like less than human by these horrendous excuses for human beings with god complexes and then vilified for it?

I sincerely hope that the people supporting this rapist never have to endure the horrendous aftermath of a sexual attack. Because I wouldn't wish that on anybody.

"Justice for Ched"? Yeah? He got it.

sayjay · 30/04/2012 22:05

I believe her

SodoffBaldrick · 30/04/2012 22:06

It's surprisingly easy not to rape someone; not to get a conviction for rape; not to be jailed for rape...

You just don't put your penis inside the body of someone who doesn't want it there, and/or is unable to consent to it being there. If in doubt, just don't put it in there.

Easy.

Once again, I believe you.

WoTmania · 30/04/2012 22:07

I believe her. Haven't posted in a while but I couldn't not.

fluffywhitekittens · 30/04/2012 22:09

I haven't read all the posts, has anyone mentioned the Facebook "I believe her" page?

SardineQueen · 30/04/2012 22:09

skirt
yes agree

SardineQueen · 30/04/2012 22:10

this facebook page?

nameuschangeus · 30/04/2012 22:10

I believe her

sydneysuze · 30/04/2012 22:14

I believe her.

I think she should be proud of fighting back at this man who obviously thought he could do whatever he liked with her and face no consequences. I hope she can feel some peace.

CaterinaSforza · 30/04/2012 22:14

I believe her.

jimblejambles · 30/04/2012 22:14

I believe her

wizzler · 30/04/2012 22:14

I believe her

Smellslikecatspee · 30/04/2012 22:15

I love this post, its so simple

^It's surprisingly easy not to rape someone; not to get a conviction for rape; not to be jailed for rape...

You just don't put your penis inside the body of someone who doesn't want it there, and/or is unable to consent to it being there. If in doubt, just don't put it in there.

Easy.^

thats the essence of it really

Don't want to be convicted of rape................mmmmmmmmmm DONT RAPE!

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