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Mumsnet, will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? And call upon the FA to kick sexism out of football?

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BasilFoulEggs · 29/04/2012 23:13

Dear Mumsnet
As you are no doubt aware, there has been the most extraordinary hate campaign waged this week by some football fans, against a rape victim in the wake of the Ched Evans Guilty Verdict.

The jist of the hatespeak, has been that a drunk woman has no right to expect the basic human right of not having her body penetrated without her active participation in that sexual act, or even her passive consent. Presumably because men (or at least footballers and their friends) have the right to penetrate women who are incapable of consent. And that if a man rapes you, it is because you are a slut, a slag and all the other hate-speak words used to de-humanise women and make it easier for people not to empathise with us when we are abused.

This week has seen the really ugly spectacle, of a bunch of men asserting their right to rape women, handmaidens supporting that right and both of them sending out a clear warning to all other rape victims, to know what to expect if they dare to pursue justice if they are raped.

If there had been a similar outpouring of hatred against any other historically oppressed group, the rest of the media would have been tearing their hair out analysing why some men hated this group so much, where the hatred came from, why it existed, what could be done about it; but ironically apart from the Daily Fail, there has been very little comment in response to the Twitter hate-campaign. If Twitter had buzzed with indignation at the jailing of the man who posted hate-speak about Fabrice Muamba, I?ve no doubt that the FA would have tracked down the posters and banned them from football matches. Because they?re busy kicking racism out of football. Sexism, though, is fine. They can give a bloody award to a convicted rapist, while their supporters conduct what must be a terrifying hate campaign against his teenage victim? right now, football fans don?t look all that much better than the Taliban, do they?

Mumsnet, will you use the voice you have against this horrible hate campaign? Will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? Will you ask the FA to state publicly, that they too, believe her and that in future, they will work as hard to kick sexism out of football, as they do to kick racism out?

Thank You.

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wannaBe · 30/04/2012 19:14

there are people who have joined twitter just to argue his case.

But tbh I think it goes further than Ched Evans. The other player who was aquitted (I won't name him as presumably then it makes for lible), was aquitted on the basis that she had previously consented to having sex with him, while she was still sober so, even though she was too drunk to have consented to Evans, she obviously wasn't considered too drunk to withdraw consent from the other individual. So what message does that send? That you can't withdraw consent unless you can actually utter the words no ? Where do we draw the line at that?

Kewcumber · 30/04/2012 19:17

"Being too drunk to consent does not automatically mean that you can be violated. " Quite.

I do hope the supporters who think that it is remember that when they are out getting pissed themselves.... whatever happens to them afterwards is their fault.

Not only do I believe her, I admire her.

AyeRobot · 30/04/2012 19:21

hehehehe at the questioning of anonymity for rape victims on this thread. I think the actions that led to the furore around this case and the treatment of the victim underline why it should be the case.

Of course it's not libel, wannaBe. I don't understand why McDonald was acquitted. I suspect that the jury were not entirely divested of their ingrained rape myths.

Jonesey72 · 30/04/2012 19:22

I believe her

Giyadas · 30/04/2012 19:22

I believe her.
I blame him.

AyeRobot · 30/04/2012 19:23

Oh, and of course I believe her. It would be nonsense not to.

Oneminute · 30/04/2012 19:24

I believe her.

sevenbubbles · 30/04/2012 19:26

I believe her

Giyadas · 30/04/2012 19:29

Have they taken down comments on the telegraph article? They're not there any more.

Whoever Ms Peach is, she was doing a fantastic job in the comment thread.

MadameOvary · 30/04/2012 19:29

I believe her

ledkr · 30/04/2012 19:32

I believe you sweetheart,we all do.

davies53 · 30/04/2012 19:33

I beleive her.

Synchronicity · 30/04/2012 19:33

I believe her.

TheHappyCamper · 30/04/2012 19:35

I believe her.

Simple.

I dread to think what message this hate campaign sends to teenage girls Sad

FarawayLook · 30/04/2012 19:36

I believe her.

hackneyzoo · 30/04/2012 19:38

I believe her.

trixymalixy · 30/04/2012 19:39

I have tweeted for the first time ever #ibelieveher

candytuft63 · 30/04/2012 19:44

I believe her.

NovackNGood · 30/04/2012 19:44

Being too drunk is rather a curious reason as you would not let someone off from a driving charge because they were too drunk to know what they were doing. However being passed out incapable of moving is an entirely different thing. Hence two outcomes I think but then i never sat through the evidence. In the same way being found not guilty is not he same as being innocent.

LadyWidmerpool · 30/04/2012 19:46

I believe her

Giyadas · 30/04/2012 19:48

Drink driving is a crime.
Being raped isn't.
Raping is a crime - even if you're drunk.
It seems quite consistent to me.

MyDogShitsShoes · 30/04/2012 19:48

I was wondering about trending too Mardy.

No idea how it works but definitelt second your idea, it would send a powerful message if we all did it at the same time.

RubberDuck · 30/04/2012 19:49

I believe her.

kohl · 30/04/2012 19:51

I believe her.

EchoBitch · 30/04/2012 19:52

I believe her too.

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