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Mumsnet, will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? And call upon the FA to kick sexism out of football?

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BasilFoulEggs · 29/04/2012 23:13

Dear Mumsnet
As you are no doubt aware, there has been the most extraordinary hate campaign waged this week by some football fans, against a rape victim in the wake of the Ched Evans Guilty Verdict.

The jist of the hatespeak, has been that a drunk woman has no right to expect the basic human right of not having her body penetrated without her active participation in that sexual act, or even her passive consent. Presumably because men (or at least footballers and their friends) have the right to penetrate women who are incapable of consent. And that if a man rapes you, it is because you are a slut, a slag and all the other hate-speak words used to de-humanise women and make it easier for people not to empathise with us when we are abused.

This week has seen the really ugly spectacle, of a bunch of men asserting their right to rape women, handmaidens supporting that right and both of them sending out a clear warning to all other rape victims, to know what to expect if they dare to pursue justice if they are raped.

If there had been a similar outpouring of hatred against any other historically oppressed group, the rest of the media would have been tearing their hair out analysing why some men hated this group so much, where the hatred came from, why it existed, what could be done about it; but ironically apart from the Daily Fail, there has been very little comment in response to the Twitter hate-campaign. If Twitter had buzzed with indignation at the jailing of the man who posted hate-speak about Fabrice Muamba, I?ve no doubt that the FA would have tracked down the posters and banned them from football matches. Because they?re busy kicking racism out of football. Sexism, though, is fine. They can give a bloody award to a convicted rapist, while their supporters conduct what must be a terrifying hate campaign against his teenage victim? right now, football fans don?t look all that much better than the Taliban, do they?

Mumsnet, will you use the voice you have against this horrible hate campaign? Will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? Will you ask the FA to state publicly, that they too, believe her and that in future, they will work as hard to kick sexism out of football, as they do to kick racism out?

Thank You.

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suzikettles · 30/04/2012 12:26

I believe her.

SparkyTGD · 30/04/2012 12:26

I believe her.

MizK · 30/04/2012 12:28

Absolutely, I believe her.

BustersOfDoom · 30/04/2012 12:28

I believe her too. I saw on Twitter that some arsewipe suggested holding a candle lit vigil at the prison gates to show support and that he should be freed and given an MBE!

What gets me though is the girlfriend standing by him, supported by her parents. Not only is he a rapist he's a self confessed cheat. I despair!

ButterPecanMuffin · 30/04/2012 12:28

Frothy - I've been blocked by other supporters too, as well as getting plenty of abuse back, but I don't care.

As you said, it's an important message to get out there, so I don't care if people are sending me verbal insults. They can insult away, I'm thick-skinned!

Kibokothepurplehippo · 30/04/2012 12:28

I believe her. And more importantly, the judge and jury believed her too, or he wouldn't have been found guilty. She has been through enough without having to deal with this too. Anyone harrassing her now should be prosecuted as the court found him guilty. Case closed.

Meglet · 30/04/2012 12:30

I believe her.

pinkpyjamas · 30/04/2012 12:31

An example of some of the idiocy displayed by one of his FEMALE fans:

"She's a joke! She'd of not gone to police if Ched or McDonald weren't footballers!!

If this was my daughter I'd of sat her down asking What had happened if she said 'DON'T KNOW,DON'T REMEMBER' I'd of not been going to police because I'd be like 'how yano its rape'!!

And I'd be very disappointed in her for getting 'in the so-called state' she seems to say she was in!

It makes you cringe when you have children yourself! To think J could go out when he's older and have a 1 night stand and that's classes as 'rape'....I'm going out with my kids if that's the case lmao!!

35 goals is not a performance of a rapist!!"

Where do you start? ........ SadAngry

OracleInaCoracle · 30/04/2012 12:33

pinkpyjamas, thats just dreadful. and sadly an attitude that is far too common.

SuePurblyingoodVOICE · 30/04/2012 12:33

What a very nasty and stupid piece of work, pinkpyjamas Sad.

astreetcarnamedknackered · 30/04/2012 12:34

I believe her.

I also believe the FA to be totally irresponsible and sexist.

astreetcarnamedknackered · 30/04/2012 12:35

And good on OP for setting up this topic.

ButterPecanMuffin · 30/04/2012 12:36

@pinky - that's so depressing.

So what, because he's a successful footballer, he can't be a rapist?

It's amazing how many people seem to think that unless someone fits their image of a rapist, they cannot be a rapist.

I'm ashamed to say, my husband's cousin is a convicted rapist (convicted of raping his [now ex-]wife), yet people in the family were saying, "but he's respectable and has a great job, people like him don't rape." Therefore, in their eyes, he's innocent.

MizK · 30/04/2012 12:40

pinkpyjamas i have changed my mind on the whole thing now after reading that quote.
If I had realised he was such a fabulous goalscorer then it would have been obvious that he has carte blanche to do whatever with whomever he wants. Perhaps the jury were unaware of his performance at work?
Honestly, some people make me despair. I really hope that the daughter of this woman never finds herself in a similar position, not least because her mother will blame her :(

ATOmum · 30/04/2012 12:42

I believe her

MarySA · 30/04/2012 12:42

I wasn't there. I wasn't on the jury and didn't hear the evidence. And I honestly think it's best left up to the courts to decide. And in this case they have. That's my opinion.

Fuzzywood · 30/04/2012 12:44

I believe her.

PurplePidjin · 30/04/2012 12:44

I believe you

Like and shared - my first political statement in 5 years of facebooking!

MorrisZapp · 30/04/2012 12:44

I believe her.

Heyyyho · 30/04/2012 12:47

I believe you

fantastic thread

thestringcheesemassacre · 30/04/2012 12:52

that page on facebook supporting the rapist is making me rage-y

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MyDogShitsShoes · 30/04/2012 13:03

Wow this thread is really powerful.

Just come back to it after posting yesterday and have tears running down my face.

I hope to God she gets to see it.

See? WE ALL BELIEVE YOU.

swallowedAfly · 30/04/2012 13:07

this girl was on video stumbling about and falling over outside the kebab shop where the guy found her and took her from. the hotel receptionist remembers her stumbling and slurring - clearly incapacitated. yet these people see him as innocent?

it's amazing how ignorant some people are. and to think any one of them could sit on a jury!

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