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Mumsnet, will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? And call upon the FA to kick sexism out of football?

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BasilFoulEggs · 29/04/2012 23:13

Dear Mumsnet
As you are no doubt aware, there has been the most extraordinary hate campaign waged this week by some football fans, against a rape victim in the wake of the Ched Evans Guilty Verdict.

The jist of the hatespeak, has been that a drunk woman has no right to expect the basic human right of not having her body penetrated without her active participation in that sexual act, or even her passive consent. Presumably because men (or at least footballers and their friends) have the right to penetrate women who are incapable of consent. And that if a man rapes you, it is because you are a slut, a slag and all the other hate-speak words used to de-humanise women and make it easier for people not to empathise with us when we are abused.

This week has seen the really ugly spectacle, of a bunch of men asserting their right to rape women, handmaidens supporting that right and both of them sending out a clear warning to all other rape victims, to know what to expect if they dare to pursue justice if they are raped.

If there had been a similar outpouring of hatred against any other historically oppressed group, the rest of the media would have been tearing their hair out analysing why some men hated this group so much, where the hatred came from, why it existed, what could be done about it; but ironically apart from the Daily Fail, there has been very little comment in response to the Twitter hate-campaign. If Twitter had buzzed with indignation at the jailing of the man who posted hate-speak about Fabrice Muamba, I?ve no doubt that the FA would have tracked down the posters and banned them from football matches. Because they?re busy kicking racism out of football. Sexism, though, is fine. They can give a bloody award to a convicted rapist, while their supporters conduct what must be a terrifying hate campaign against his teenage victim? right now, football fans don?t look all that much better than the Taliban, do they?

Mumsnet, will you use the voice you have against this horrible hate campaign? Will you tell the woman that Ched Evans raped, that We Believe Her? Will you ask the FA to state publicly, that they too, believe her and that in future, they will work as hard to kick sexism out of football, as they do to kick racism out?

Thank You.

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WilsonFrickett · 30/04/2012 12:03

Oracle apologies if you know this, but you can delete any posts others make on your page - just hover to the right hand side of the post and you'll see an X, press it to delete.

SerialKipper · 30/04/2012 12:04

I don't want to read the horrid comments - can someone who has tell me whether they're accusing her of lying, or claiming that once she was incapable of consenting she was fair game?

Because "I believe her" as a slogan doesn't really deal with the latter. Would it be useful to have a hashtag of (something like) #toodrunktoconsent=rape ? I'm sure someone can put it better than that.

KRITIQ · 30/04/2012 12:04

I believe her, too. Convictions are so rare for rape.

ButterPecanMuffin · 30/04/2012 12:05

I'm sending the link to others.

YouBrokeMySmoulder · 30/04/2012 12:06

I believe her.

swallowedAfly · 30/04/2012 12:07

i've had a bit of a run in with someone on someone else's facebook page today. they thought a link to an article on his conviction was a good place to demonise girls who have one night stands with footballers and say it's no wonder they think they are 'slags' Hmm

apologies to the mn'er whose facebook page it was on Blush

QuickLookBusy · 30/04/2012 12:07

The article sillybeardydaddyman linked to is very intersting. Here are some quotes from fans about the planned applause for the guilty footballer.

One fan wrote: ?A minute?s applause for Ched is the most ridiculous idea anybody has ever come up with. He was found guilty.?

Another user wrote: ?99% of our fans HAVE condemned any applause plans, and HAVE said they will not take part in them.?

Another said: ?I?m choosing to put my faith in the vast majority of decent, fair minded Blades fans who will out-sing the ridiculous suggestion of applause and make the day about us.?

It does show that not all football fans are idiots and that the FA should know that decent fans do not support Evans and will think that nominating him for a prize is dispicable.

MissKeithLemon · 30/04/2012 12:07

I have added my comments and shared on my own page. I hope the supporters of Ched Evans will see fit to remove their page as soon as it becomes apparent that the vast majority of people, both on-line & off DO NOT support a convicted rapist.

BeingAMumIsFun · 30/04/2012 12:07

We believe her - and the court believed her - he has been found guilty

And glad to say the police have arrested 3 men in relation to this vile hate campaign

www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/apr/26/ched-evans-rape-twitter-investigation

If only some football fans thought more of their families than their football - Britain would be a much better country.

OracleInaCoracle · 30/04/2012 12:07

wilson, oh, its just a badly put case and shows him up as the utter fool that he is.

QuickLookBusy · 30/04/2012 12:08

Sorry, most importantly I meant to say

I believe her and so did the police, the CPS and the Jury.

ZZZenAgain · 30/04/2012 12:08

I believe her too.

ButterPecanMuffin · 30/04/2012 12:09

I've been blocked by his sister on Twitter, because I called her out on her hate campaign against the victim.

fragola · 30/04/2012 12:12

I believe her.

runningforthebusinheels · 30/04/2012 12:12

I believe her.

I'm sickened by this hate-campaign against a rape victim.

wannaBe · 30/04/2012 12:15

I haven't read the whole thread, but,

My dh/ds were at a football match this weekend where the other player who was also accused but was aquitted played. (sorry I can't remember his name or which team it was,. But he received a very hostile reception from all the football fans, even though he has been found not guilty.

So I think that while there is a campaign happening here in support of Ched Evans, it is fairly obvious that it is a minority of people we're talking about and the majority are against not only Ched Evans, but also the other player who was there on the night..

FrothyDragon · 30/04/2012 12:17

ButterPecan, I think half the supporters of the campaign have blocked both of my accounts... I was quite proud of that achievement... Grin

In all seriousness. This is such an important message to get out there.

Rindercella · 30/04/2012 12:19

I believe her.

seeker · 30/04/2012 12:20

I believe her.

MmeLindor. · 30/04/2012 12:20

That is good to hear, Wannabe.

I do wonder that the PFA are standing by their decision to honour him then. I suspect a poll taken now would give a different response.

Puffinsaresmall · 30/04/2012 12:22

I saw your post Frothy just before was deleted.

I've tweeted the link to the Ibelieve FB page and liked it.

WilsonFrickett · 30/04/2012 12:22

I think the PFA really thought he would be acquitted (and why wouldn't they, that's what normally happens after all) so were very much caught on the hop.

OhDoAdmitMrsDeVere · 30/04/2012 12:23

I BELIEVE HER

SuePurblyingoodVOICE · 30/04/2012 12:24

I believe her, and have liked Frothy's group/linked to this.

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