Michael Jackson, again!!

[harman]

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What an awful thought Suzywong

suzywong it wouldnt suprise me if that was going on

Those kids need to be taken off him if an allegation of this sort has been made

I know it is an awful thought and I'm sorry to pollute the thread with it but I get very angry when I think about the sycophancy and indulgence that man has had even with the treatment and aquisition of his own children .. he should have been checked out a long way down the line and I feel sorry for him that all htose around him have let him believe his behaviour regarding children is normal.
Feel sorriest for all the kids involved, especially his own : ) because I'm sure he will top himself and then those kids will be orphans of an unknown mother and a freak father. Hope they can get re-adopted to a normal loving family and nget their identities changed.

his own children suzywong?

I don't think so, he must be seriously deluded if he really goes round telling people they are biologically his!! But I agree, they are going to be in for a very tough time, biologically his or not.

Here's a thought knowing the past allegations and his 'reputation' even amongst friends (see Uri Gellar) should the parents of the accusser be prosecuted for child endangerment for leaving their children with MJ? Were they 'pimping' their children?

I've seen this view on other talk boards since this all blew up.

yes they should (see my earlier post)

I've worked withfor big names in the music industry in this country and thankfully they have all been surrounded by down to earth people and the bigger stars they were themselves the more grounded they seemed to be, so why should it be so disgustingly different in the US?

I hope this is the nadir of the cult of celebrity and all the extra-special treatement, to the point of pimping your own kids, ceases.

On the Victoria Beckham thread there is a feeling that public figures should not have their parenting standards criticised unless the criticiser knows them personally, but three cheers for punter policing. MJ is an example of what happens if celebrety is revered.

from reading the papers this morning it appears that the boy accusing him of this is the one who featured on the martin bashir interview.it said that he was seriously ill and mj had paid for his treatment and bought them a new car.i remember this boy and his family being on tv.i dont know how true this is ...you know what the tabloids are like!
as for his behaviour i think that as hes been such a colossal star for so long and has never lived a proper life he has been surrounded by yes men and people who ignore his increasingly bizarre behaviour.personally i think these people are as much to blame as him (including the parents of the children)as perhaps if these people had told him how he was behaving was wrong way back down the line he wouldnt be in the trouble he's in now.
i also saw the louis theroux programme on sunday and can honestly say his father is nearly as wacko as mj is.
the sad part is 'his' children you would think instead of the bizarre life he makes them lead and the bizarre life he has had it would have made him try his utmost to give them a 'normal' life not the unimaginable life they lead now.
personally up until the first allegations were made i was a fan of mj but now i just feel slight pity mixed with disgust.i hope they prove one way or another his guilt in this and his children whatever happens dont suffer too much,sadly i fear they already have.

pie - regarding uri gellar on both the louis theroux programme on sunday night and gmtv this morning he sat there proclaiming mjs innocence but when questioned as to whether he would leave his own children alone in mjs company he said no he wouldnt.also the gentleman on gmtv who was sticking up for him said he has no qualms about leaving his two girls with mj ,yes but thats ok as so far it seems mj has a preference for boys not girls.
i know that even if these recent allegations had not come up i wouldnt leave my child ,boy/girl alone with this man.the parents of these children are in my opinion either incredibly naive or incredibly money hungry,and now have to live with this on their conscience

The only thing that slightly worries me about all these trials by media though, is if he is completely innocent (yes, yes, I know it's unlikely but IF) then he has had his reputation completely UTTERLY destroyed without any sort of trial.

It does make me wonder whether in these sorts of cases it shouldn't be made public until after a trial has found them guilty.

Georgina - that reminds me of the thread when Matthew Kelly was in the spotlight - lots of 'no smoke without fire' comments, but in that instance it really wasn't taken any further. It will be interesting to see how his career continues.

I think this is all publicity for his Greatest Hits ALbum that was realeased on Monday, bet you its No1 on Sunday! Certainly wouldn't want me yet alone my kids sharing his bed either. Again it is trial my media and there is probably a whole lot more we don't know about all of this. DH and I were chatting about this last night and also mentioned whether he would have his make up bag with him, if he did get put in jail, I think he will topple himself, I somehow can't see Whako being an old man. PS I think these postings and the Posh postings have been great, I have been sitting here chuckling, better than a Mills and Boons!!!

He has been arrested.

you got to him fast D!!

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They didn't know where he was?

was he on the big wheel?

Nonce - End of!

His mug shot is a pretty good one actually. Probably had his hair and makeup done before hand.

$3m bail. Trial starts Jan 9th 2004.

I don't know whether any of you remember this but they changed US law as a result of his last arrest in connection with child molestation charges a few years ago. It never went to trial because Jackson paid the family in question off with a significant payment. This was deemed by the legal powers that be as unfair to both Jackson and any further possible victims. MJ should have been tried for those (alledged) crimes in order to either clear his name or to find him guilty and further protect any potential victims in the future. This time MJ will HAVE to go to trial and will not be able to (alledgedly) buy this victims silence.

That's because this is a criminal action, the last time it was a civil action.

Ahhhhhhh, that'll teach me to listen to DH !

No Northerner, WSM is right,
they changed the law because (Quote me if I am wrong)of Michael Jackson. They could not force a minor to testify 10 yrs ago.
Jordy Chandler was unwilling but instead did a civil action.

JC was unwilling to bring criminal charges against him.

Yehhhhhh, thanks for that Doormat !

So I was half right then! I knew last time was a civil action but I didn't know why.