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Amanda Knox

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LadyBeagleEyes · 23/09/2011 17:16

Her appeal is being heard at the moment, and there is a good chance she'll be freed.
So who did kill Meredith?
If she and her ex boyfriend are deemed innocent, I hope the Italian police will continue to look into the case and get some justice for her.
I don't understand why they say the DNA is flawed, or have Knox's parents just managed to hire some very smart lawyers?
It's such a sad case.

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LapsedPacifist · 04/10/2011 21:33

Reading some of these posts has almost made me lose the will to live. I had no idea there were so many profoundly stupid people on MN. Makes me understand exactly how witch hunts can occur. Must hide thread.

Sylvana · 04/10/2011 21:57

Lapsed, I couldn't agree more, so many of the posts on here have made me so angry that I've had to stay away at times. Sadly this will stay with Amanda & Raffaele for many years to come, there will always be a section of society who will chose to ignore the truth and the facts and will continue to believe they are guilty. The witch hunt focused so much on them that the victim AND the real killer were totally forgotten.

Portofino · 04/10/2011 22:15

I agree Freak and Lapsed. Some people are so fixated on AK that not only do they forget Meredith, but they forget or don't even know Hmm that there were other people imprisoned as well.

begonyabampot · 04/10/2011 22:19

And the Daily Mail are still choosing to call her Foxy Knoxy in their headlines.

Portofino · 04/10/2011 22:22

And I always thought the DM was very guilty of putting their "spin" on thiings and that what was written should be taken with a pinch of salt. After last night, where it was clear that they wrote a story with photos and quotes based on something that didn't happen, I will never ever even click on their fecking website again - not even if tempted to do so by MN. Spin is one thing - I am wondering if there should not be some kind of legal offence in this case. Is it really legal to publish complete bollocks?

BoulevardOfBrokenSleep · 04/10/2011 22:39

"Is it really legal to publish complete bollocks?"

It's not a criminal offence; the libel law depends on the person you have libelled having the money to be able to prosecute. Not an option available to your average citizen.

Also, the Mail group fights libel cases tooth and nail all the way up to the court steps (even when they know they're wrong), harassing complainants and threatening them they will lose their homes etc. (see Flat Earth News if you're interested in reading about this stuff)

And I don't think there's any comeback if you print a bare-faced but non-libellous lie, let's say, "All illegal immigrants are entitled to a free council house and £300 per week benefits". Willing to be corrected if I'm wrong on that. But I fear I'm not.

Portofino · 04/10/2011 22:51

I am guessing the Knox family have more important things to concentrate on at the mo, than the DM. But still, I feel they should not get away with such stuff scott free.....

abendbrot · 04/10/2011 23:00

The interview with AKs parents for This Morning is very revealing - thanks DF.

diddl · 05/10/2011 07:16

It is odd how it keeps being said "back to square one/still no closure/no closer to the truth for Meredith´s family.

There is someone in prison for her murder.

Perhaps the family don´t know why it happened(?), but releasing AK doesn´t change that, does it?

crazyspaniel · 05/10/2011 07:36

Diddl - I thought the reason behind the "back to square one" comments is that the evidence at the scene suggested that more than one person killed Meredith? If so, I think her parents are quite justified to feel like this.

katz · 05/10/2011 08:09

There were unidentified finger prints at the murder scene, I'm guessing the police have ruled out all of MK's friends, so maybe the theory that RG wasn't alone is correct.

WorzselMummage · 05/10/2011 08:52

The reason the Kercher family feel they are back to square one is that the Italian Police made such a disgraceful hash of the whole enquiry they must have absolutely no faith in any of the evidence or any of the convictions.

They must feel bloody hideous about this whole debacle. Their beautiful Daughter was murdered and they have been seriously let down by the bunch of incompetents sent to investigate it.

Since no-one on here has actually met AK, i'd love to know how she is so hated.. people seem to be happy to believe what the media peddle. She might well be the devil personified, just as she might be a normal, all american girl. we will never know they truth about that and that isn't her fault. I don't believe she did it, slitting a friends throat is not something a 20 year old would do.

ScarlettIsWalking · 05/10/2011 09:30

"slitting a friends throat is not something a 20 year old would do."

so this makes you sure it did not happen or something like this could not happen - just a feeling, your intuition about moral codes of young people. I am not saying she committed the murder but how do we honestly know what a 20 yr old would or wouldn't do.

the murder of Bobby Kent

staffylover · 05/10/2011 09:30

Wonder how much the Italians were paid/promised to reach this verdict. Whats changed in four years?

"slitting a friends throat is not something a 20 year old would do" How do you know? You wouldn`t think two 10 year old boys would kidnap a little boy and kill him but it happened.

diddl · 05/10/2011 09:35

"the evidence at the scene suggested that more than one person killed Meredith? "

Thank you.

heggertyhaggerty · 05/10/2011 10:31

Ok, well if we're allowed to comment then I will just say this. I haven't followed the case closely but I have noticed some aspects of the reported behaviour look very, well she strikes me as narcissistic.

It's not something I read anywhere but I did just google the word narcissist with her name and there were a good few hits including some analysis by psychologists. I thought it automatically watching film of her, because she reminds me of someone else I used to know who was desperately narcissistic and watching Amanda made me feel very uncomfortable.

I don't have the first beginnings of an idea as to whether she did anything that night or not. But I find her difficult to watch.

Someone mentioned below about 'you wouldn't behave like that if you were guilty' - well, you would if you had a personality disorder, if you were narcissistic, perhaps sociopathic to some degree. That doesn't mean she did it.

heggertyhaggerty · 05/10/2011 10:33

Which is the same in the Mc Cann case...just because the protagonists appear narcissistic and a bit strange, it doesn't mean they killed anyone. They could just be strange or unpleasant people who had their daughter stolen. It wouldn't change them as people.

Their response might look very, very odd but that could just be the way they would handle a situation like that, it doesn't mean they killed their child.

But you can see how this makes people suspicious.

Portofino · 05/10/2011 10:43

What evidence at the scene? I think the evidence on the body was "consistent" with there being more than one attacker. But it could also have been one person.

DuelingFanjo · 05/10/2011 10:51

I think the whole multiple assailants thing was pushed too far in order to beef up the case agains AK and RS because the prosecution knew the dna and circumstantial evidence was weak and that there was no motive.

This means the Kerchers are left wondering what to think. perhaps the report from the jury will shed some light. there's always the possibility that they, having reviewed the evidence presented, may say they disagree that there was more than one person there that night.

LittlePumpkinHead · 05/10/2011 10:55

Ah this is depressing me, I am literally one of three people in the whole office who aren't still saying 'she's definitely guilty' 'there's something weird about her, I can tell she did it' 'she may not have done it but she knows' etc etc.

Once shit about you is written and is out there, that's it. You can be completely exonerated but it sticks and you'll never convince anyone. Yes, none of us know 100%, but if she is completely innocent can you imagine going through that?

I just can't imagine why people are so desperate for her to be guilty when the available evidence now proves otherwise. There is no evidence to suggest they did it. Liking sex, being supposedly weird, not reacting the way you expect, doesn't make you a murderer. Hard, conclusive evidence makes you a murderer, not a gut feeling.

But trying to argue this point with 20 people at work is futile. You can see it in her eyes apparently....

LittlePumpkinHead · 05/10/2011 10:56

The poor Kerchers. If the investigation hadn't been so very badly fucked up they would probably have closure now with the successful prosecution of RG. Why isn't the anger still directed at AK directed towards the Italian Police for prolonguing their suffering by making such a pigs ear of it all?

ThePsychicSatsuma · 05/10/2011 10:57

the only thing I remember about her arrest was someone saying she was doing cartwheels while they removed poor meredith's body - was this axctually true or more police screw-ups?
was this where AK's psychological state began to be questionned?

heggertyhaggerty · 05/10/2011 11:03

No idea satsuma, but I read this earlier which has a professional comment on the reported behaviour.

The reported behaviour may not be accurate. This is the risk we take with newspapers. From what it's reported, however, her behaviour was really inappropriate.

As I said, that doesn't mean she committed a murder. As Pumpkin says that would depend on cold hard evidence. Her personality is neither here nor there, but it is interesting and in court I believe a lot of it hangs on how you behave, how you come across...that's why they tell young offenders to wear a suit.

LittlePumpkinHead · 05/10/2011 11:08

ThePsychicSatsuma what I have read about it suggested that she was waiting for quite a few hours before being questioned (at this stage as a witness I think). She was talking to a policeman about the fact she had done gymnastics, she was then asked what kind of moves she could do, and she showed him.

Innapproriate yes, stupid yes, but not as bad as it was painted to be (i.e. out of the blue she started cartwheeling down the corridor)

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