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Amanda Knox

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LadyBeagleEyes · 23/09/2011 17:16

Her appeal is being heard at the moment, and there is a good chance she'll be freed.
So who did kill Meredith?
If she and her ex boyfriend are deemed innocent, I hope the Italian police will continue to look into the case and get some justice for her.
I don't understand why they say the DNA is flawed, or have Knox's parents just managed to hire some very smart lawyers?
It's such a sad case.

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RedGenesis · 04/10/2011 17:20

And body language isn't scientific?

Dancing around and acting like nothing is wrong, when someone you know and live with has been brutally raped and murdered? Not normal. Call it unscientific if you will, but there aren't many people in the world who wouldn't think it deserving of some questioning.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 04/10/2011 17:33

It's all be questioned and examined over and over, hasn't it? Acquitted on appeal means you didn't do it.

DuelingFanjo · 04/10/2011 17:37

they said she was cartwheeling, she said she was stretching after waiting for ages.

The whole Amanda in the flat listening to the murder was what they asked her to imagine it might have been like had she bee there, not what actually happened. So the body language thing is just silly.

I do agree though, whenever I have heard a scream I have gone to investigate.

Feenie · 04/10/2011 17:38

Yes, RedGenius, but you can't be convicted for murder because either a)you are a bit odd or b)you lack empathy.

RedGenesis · 04/10/2011 17:42

She was aquitted of murder. She didn't commit murder. i.e. she didn't kill Meridith herself. They already put the person in prison who did it.

But she wasn't innocent in all this.

She heard the attack going on and covered her ears, not called for help. Then she lied about what happened, including blaming an innocent party.

But that is the law - if the police or prosecution take the trial down the wrong path, the person goes free. The law is an ass.

RedGenesis · 04/10/2011 17:43

"Yes, RedGenius, but you can't be convicted for murder because either a)you are a bit odd or b)you lack empathy"

Yes, well done Feenie. As i said, she didn't committ murder, but she was complicit in it, from her own testimony.

MysteriousHamster · 04/10/2011 17:45

Red Genesis - she didn't hear the attack. That bit didn't happen.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 04/10/2011 17:52

Well next time you're acquitted of murder RedGenesis, we'll all be sure to take no notice and assume you really did it...

RedGenesis · 04/10/2011 17:54

I have obviously missed the bit where the hearing the attack didn't happen. Everywhere i've seen, it says otherwise. Could you link that?

Other evidence also placed her in the vicinity of the scene. Seperately, behaving "odd", or "lacking in empathy" doesn't cover her behaviour in court.

That said, it was a given that she'd be cleared because there was no evidence that she actually killed Meredith.

Feenie · 04/10/2011 17:57

Other evidence also placed her in the vicinity of the scene

At the time of the murder? What evidence would that be?

The only evidence you have cited so far is that she behaved oddly and wasn't upset enough. That doesn't make you guilty of murder - the law is not an ass, thankfully.

CogitoErgoSometimes · 04/10/2011 17:57

Conviction for murder has to be 'beyond all reasonable doubt'... in English Law at least. If there's no evidence, there's no conviction. Law not an ass therefore

Feenie · 04/10/2011 18:00

But that testimony points towards Lumumba, who was cleared. It was a statement given under duress, and must have been discounted, since Lumumba was not the murderer.

RedGenesis · 04/10/2011 18:01

sorry, since when did we have to cite all the evidence? Surely that was the purpose of it being reported on!

Her mobile phone records placed her in the vicinity.

And AGAIN, i'm not suggesting she was guilty of direct murder. The evidence suggests that she was complicit in it, but not guilty of committing it herself, something the police involved stupidly tried to pin on her with weak evidence.

RedGenesis · 04/10/2011 18:05

"During questioning three days after the attack, Miss Knox, 21, showed a police interpreter how she claimed to have tried to muffle the sounds of the killing which she said she heard as she stood in the kitchen of the cottage the two women shared in Perugia, Umbria"

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/italy/4986691/Amanda-Knox-covered-ears-to-block-out-screams.html

Feenie · 04/10/2011 18:07

How did her mobile phone records place her in Meredith Kercher's room? Confused

If you're going to post she is definitely guilty because of her dodgy body language, then you should probably back that up, yes.

I haven't seen any evidence which makes her complicit, nor have you been able to point to any - just questionable body language and a lack of empathy.

DuelingFanjo · 04/10/2011 18:12

Was her 'hearing the attack' presented as evidence in the murder trial? I thought it was ruled as inadmissable as evidence? Maybe the report made after the first trial would confirm this? Also the phone records?

RedGenesis · 04/10/2011 18:14

Classic evasion. I'm not suggesting for one second that the records placed IN the room, but they placed her near by. Again, not suggesting she killed her, but that she was complicit in the events that allowed the guy to enter and kill Meredith.

Since this isn't a court, there is no implicit requirement on me to demonstrate absolute proof, and since i'm not on the force its not something I have access to. However, I am capable of having and sharing an opinion, based on what i've read and seen through, and as such I have done.

ScarlettIsWalking · 04/10/2011 18:24

My thoughts and wishes of peace are with Meredith's family.

I think the recent PR campaign from the Knox' family was horrific and unfeeling. Her smiling Mother on This Morning who couldn't bring herself to express any condolances for Meredith - yuk. I think Amanda fits in v well with her family in this sense as they are all completely lacking in any empathy. I personally believe she is guilty of setting Meredith up and knows much more about the murder that she has let on.

noblegiraffe · 04/10/2011 18:29

RedGenesis, from what I've read, her mobile phone was switched off overnight so I'm not sure where you got the idea that mobile phone records placed her in the vicinity?

catsareevil · 04/10/2011 19:01

Have the Kercher family said yet if there will be a civil case?

Portofino · 04/10/2011 19:15

It is incredible to me that everyone keeps referring back to the Lumumba "confession". That statement was retracted the next morning and was never admissible in court with relation to the murder trial. It is completely invalid as evidence.

Portofino · 04/10/2011 19:16

Their phones WERE switched off overnight. It was one of the points against them.

DuelingFanjo · 04/10/2011 19:26

the Knox family have always said they feel for the Kerchers, I have no idea why people think they haven't.

begonyabampot · 04/10/2011 19:30

If i thought my daughter was innocent and wrongly imprisoned for 20 odd years i'd be shouting it from the rooftops, doesn't mean i don't feel for the Kerchers but my daughter is alive and needs my help now. I think people are out of order for criticising the Knox family.