God, those NoW journos were utter scum weren't they?

[headfairy]

apparently by deleting Milly's messages her family still had some hope that she might still be alive

Yes, I saw it yesterday but have absorbed so much info. I can't remember where ?! May be further back on this thread ?

I'll go see if I can find out !

\link{http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/09/cameron-coulson-phone-hacking\the letter Prescott wrote to Cameron about Coulson was posted in the Guardian at the time!!!!}

\link{http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2009/jul/09/cameron-statement-andy-coulson?intcmp=239\Campbell also told him to be very sure about what he was doing}

(Cameron too busy reading the Sun to notice...?)

Pannus, seconded.

Wow. Love the Tesco comment (erebus they refused to pull ads from NOTW before it was shut down. Lord knows who does their PR - I'd have thought as a fmaily supermarket it doesn't look good to be funding a paper that's hacked phones of abducted/murdered 13-year-olds. Or attempting to pervert the course of justice).

'Subject to a police investigation', my arse. Because we all know how effective that is, don't we?

PS Fresh off Twitter: Offices raided of Daily Star. No journalists found.

I thangyew

Thread called 'Did you know this about Tesco/BSkyB'

Andrew Higginson, Chief Exec of Retailing Services & Group Strategy Director (TESCO) also sits as a non-exec director on BSkyB board.

There you go !

madam

Quite frankly, Labour are just as bad as the Conservatives with regards to this whole seedy affair. Are we seriously supposed to believe that Prescott, who was Deputy Primeminister had absolutely no idea just how corrupt NI was whilst he was in government? He actually had the power to do something about it at the time but it suited Labour not to bother.

Agree, catinthehat2, mustn't let bad law and wrong "solutions" be rushed through in the wake of this.

? Strong, honest, independent police and judiciary

? Uncorrupt, democratic parliament

? Strong, free press

These are the tripod on which our democracy rests. Whenever one leg bows - as they frequently do - the other two can knock it back into shape.

What's terrifying about the current situation is one businessman from Australia has bound all three legs together and brandished them like a golf club for his own convenience.

But if parliament were to take advantage of this mess to disempower the press, they would be doing as much damage to our democracy as the Australian.

I think we have already established that all govts are as bad as each other.

This is the govt. we have at the moment though, and it just shows that they are all as corrupt as one another. It's the 'I'm alright Jack' philosophy.

MrsDonkey

Don't think for a moment any of us think Labour come out of this well either. But they didn't hire someone despite at least 3 people being on the record as saying they had links to the criminal underworld (Rusbridger posted articles form archive today that show private investigator trial was well underway before Coulson hired)

Also to have Christmas dinner etc with the chief exec of company whose deal is about to go through to give you unprecedented control over the media stinks to high heaven. They are all tainted. But the Tories are absolutely in the shit over this. They were meant to be a clean broom, remember?

Meanwhile, the hunt for Clegg's whereabouts goes on...

Can someone do me a quick 'this happened, then this then this' appraisal please? I've been hiding under a rock for last few days.

I get that phones were hacked (by a PI?) including Millie Dowler's (horrible) but I don't understand what Andy C, Rebekkah and David Cameron have got to do with anything?

madam i'm thinking about putting lost posters for him

Oh madam

I concur completely !

I have a passionate dislike for DC and his cronies, always have, always will.

(Please read thread for references to 'slimy, dirty, with silver-spoon-in-mouth-and-up-arse) !

What have they done with Nick Clegg ? Did they send him off on his holidays early ?

Brian

In the nicest possible way, please either read whole thread, or google, you lazy bugger !

BBC Q&A for Brian.

Donkeybucket I really thought I was going to get away with that you know. What about if I do big puppy eyes??

Brian Paddick thinks that Rebekah Brooks will get an 'invitation she cannot refuse' from the Police.

We shall find out just how corrupt our country is, wont we ?

Former Met police chief Brian Paddick has told my colleague Vikram Dodd it is now "blindingly obvious" that police would want to arrest and interview Rebekah Brooks, the controversial boss of News International.

Paddick said: "If Andy Coulson has been arrested, it is inevitable that Rebekah Brooks will get an invitation from the police that she can not refuse."

from the guardian

And thank you TIANC at least you're lovely

Just the start of campbell's article is worth quoting in light of DC's press conference earlier

'Assuming Cameron does the basics of leadership, that means he has satisfied himself that his communications director did nothing improper or illegal, nor condoned, used or benefited from anything improper or illegal, in his time as editor of the News of the World. He has also satisfied himself that nothing is likely to emerge to cast doubt on that judgement. That is a big call to have made'

How DC thinks he is going to ride this one out is beyond me. The man is either so arrogant he thinks he can sit it out 'til the fuss dies down, or is as thick as his gormless face suggests he is. Massive cock up on his part, not least because so many people warned him.

No way, Brian !

"FETCH !"

"want a bone, there's a good doggy, BRIAN" !

"? Strong, honest, independent police and judiciary

? Uncorrupt, democratic parliament

? Strong, free press

These are the tripod on which our democracy rests. Whenever one leg bows - as they frequently do - the other two can knock it back into shape.

What's terrifying about the current situation is one businessman from Australia has bound all three legs together and brandished them like a golf club for his own convenience."

Thisisanicecage I think I love you

It must be a bloody long way down from that pedestal that DC has put himself upon.

I don't think politician's understand 'illegal', do they ?

wouldn't you love to be a fly on the wall in wapping now

It's been 10 mins since 4pm.....I wanna know !