God, those NoW journos were utter scum weren't they?

[headfairy]

apparently by deleting Milly's messages her family still had some hope that she might still be alive

Oh and I'm also boycotting any films from Fox Studios, regardless of how much I want to see them.

Just bittorrent them it will give you a warm glow :+)

It really is beyond the pall.

Lets hope the Murdoch empire falls apart as the stock markets bail out of his filthy empire.

Just bittorrent them it will give you a warm glow :+)

It isn't like Murdoch will miss the money!

And here's the initial Information Commissioner's report, to which the one above is a follow up:
What price privacy? The unlawful trade in confidential personal information, May 2006.

(And apologies, follow up report was publ Dec 2006, not May.)

Just seen on the BBC news just now NI has conveniently found the paperwork of who sanctioned the hacking of the Dowler phone - I think. They weren't looking very hard before where they?
Mind you that was a banner at the bottom of the screen and they have proved to be unreliable before.
If it's true I don't see how the retailers can't withdraw their advertising now and stop fannying about. I am disgusted with the co-op.

Lloyds and Virgin Holidays suspend advertising.
Lets hope by the end of today all those reviewing the situation will join them.

(head flops onto keyboard; have just emailed all of the CEOs on the list. They started off chatty and got terser and terser. I have never flown with Monarch anyway. Not sure what MrsDV put in hers but I told them to read this and post here.)

Lady Beagle! I didn't email Lloyds and Virgin. I only did the list from Cif. How many more are there?

Good point, Emmanana.

The companies who do not advertise in NOTW are getting so much good publicity out of this whole affair. They would be welcome advertisers on MN.

I am hoping that Tesco follows suit as we are going to UK this weekend and I NEED my Tesco fix. It has been a YEAR.

Oh, yes, let's get the ones who boycott to post on here so that I know where I can shop.

There's a fella on Jeremy Vine asserting that we outside the mejah aren't actually into this story and that sales of the NOTW won't be affected this week . walks off to phone the bookies!

Mme- what on earth do you buy from Tesco that you cannot buy elsewhere?

(or is it just that after Schweiz it feels like shopping in poundland?)

Nerf
There aren't many other supermarkets near my parents house - except Asda but I am a snob not keen on shopping there. And yes, everything a bargain compared to CH.

According to twitter:

Ford, Renault, Cadburys, Mumsnet, NatWest, CocaCola, Body Shop, Debenhams, M&S, LloydsTSB & Co-Op WON'T be advertising in the NOTW on Sunday
TweetDeck ? 06.07.11 13:23
Retweeted by boudledidge

Am I just being cynical to not be able to envisage anything really changing, bar NOTW losing some sales and its 'best-selling Sunday paper' tagline to the Mail on Sunday or Sunday Mirror?

The problem is the invincibility News International journalists feel, there is a pervading atmosphere across NOTW, The Sun, The Times, The Sunday Times and Sky TV that working there means you are working in the most powerful and influential organisation in Britain, much more so than the government. In fact, the government answers to you (which indeed our last and current prime-ministers do, to Murdoch. Jump sir? how high sir?). (I used to work there, so first-hand experience). News International staff think they are somewhere next to God in terms of self-importance, having the weighty hand of history upon them (especially Times journos) and being above usual laws and ethics.

Boycotting NOTW will make headlines this week, but in the long run, unless Murdoch's media empire in the UK is broken down (just as he broke the newspaper unions to build it in the first place) nothing will change. He is the most influential man in every British household.

There are alternative newspapers and news websites to read. However, while Sky Sports exists, for one, I can never see that happening. What man, or pub, would forego that?

Can I just clarify something?

What Mumsnet has done is vastly more heroic than the rest of that list.

Ford, Cadbury's etc were paying money to News Corp; they don't lose any cash by withdrawing their ads from NOTW and can simply place them elsewhere.

Mumsnet was being paid by News Corp. And has turned that money down.

It's scary how powerful Murdoch is, isn't it?
And even after he's dead and gone his children will just take over.
They're already at the helm and appear to be as ruthless as he is. If NI was a country, he'd be a dictator, as it is NI have more power than many goverments already.

YY to ThisIsANiceCage, They really should be proud.

The more I think about this, the more I think they only way it could have happened is if the NOTW thought it was untouchable. After all, they had the police in their pay, Parliament over a barrel and NI has v close links with govt (past and present).

What worries me about the ad boycott (and I've emailed all on the list...) is that NI & advertisers themselves will shrug their shoulders and take the financial hit (as they have done with the Times paywall) as they know it's only likely to be short term.

So I really think the most important thing to do is sign the petition springheeledjack posted above - Murdoch cared enough about the BSkyB deal to fly in when it was being put through last time. I don't think the Govt will block him (at best, if people don't buy the 'lone reporter' defence NI are trotting out today, there will be another pause) but to see the Tories say it's got nothing to do with the phonehacking scandal, when one of the conditions is that NI are 'fit and proper' beggars belief.

Especially when NI have now clearly lied to parliament (Les Hinton, chair of NI telling the Parliamentary committee that he had carried out a 'full investigation' and the hacking was the work of one reporter) and Baroness Buscombe saying NI 'lied' to the PCC.

I mean, what does it take to be found 'unfit' to run a media business in the UK?

Rosetti - I agree.

RossettiConfetti, cross-posted. Completely agree with you. I used to work in on a national - whose listings mag was found to have employed private investigators, so thought I had a cynical view of the media anyway but what's happened this week takes it down to a whole new level.

If the BSkyB deal goes through after this, it just sends a loud klaxon to NI that whatever they do, they'll still get what they want anyway - a little more effort to do it maybe but otherwise no problem at all. They are entirely above the law.

And though I cringe sometimes when MN gets self-congratulatory, as others have said above, I think Justine has made an ethical judgement (probably completely lost on NI) that some retailers (I'm looking at you Tesco. What does it take, eh?) haven't had the courage to follow, at real cost to MN.

I applaud you, I really do.

?@MumsnetTowers: Justine, our CEO, will be on Sky News at 1.30pm #boultonandco #NOTW

The more I read the crosser I get. Rebekah Wade/Brooks just needs to go - if she didn't know (which I doubt), she should have known. They were reporting on stuff they'd heard on the voicemails (the recruitment agency thing), FFS - didn't she wonder how they knew?

And a big YAY to MN. Brilliant, admirable decision.

This may have been said - Sharon Shoesmith was forced out over baby P; why is Rebekah Brookes/Wade still in a job? Why is anyone taking Cameron's posturing seriously? He employed Andy Coulson as head of communications - surely character judgement questionable?

Co-op has stopped advertising now

?@MumsnetTowers: Justine, our CEO, will be on Sky News at 1.30pm #boultonandco #NOTW

Are we allowed to watch sky news?