God, those NoW journos were utter scum weren't they?

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apparently by deleting Milly's messages her family still had some hope that she might still be alive

I don't get this? Haven't any of you got in a big screw up when your partner or child's mobile was too full to get receive more messages? My husbands mobile doesn't even tell him its full!

If they deleted one saying 'could you get some milk' or something, wouldn't it make space for more recent ones with more information to arrive?

Rebekkah campaigned for the Suzy Lamprugh rules and thousands of people who have to make home visits alone are safer for that.

Don't you think what they did was intended to help find her, not to have 'more column inches'?

no I don't midnightservant - if they wanted to help find her then they would have done it legitimately.

New allegations coming out on channel 4 about NoW tapping a senior policeman who was involved in a murder hunt where the suspects included private investigators who worked for NoW. Had been a meeting about it at the time between NoW and met police - but unclear what happened after that meeting.

It's absolutely apalling if these allegations are true - Ford have withdrawn advertising from NoW and other advertisers reviewing their positions. The paper should be brought down over this.

no midnightservant i do NOT think they deleted messages to help find anyone.

if this was instrumental in solving such cases, do you not think the police would have done it?

I bet Kate and Jerry were hacked.

Midnight - don't be soft! Tabloid journalists want scoops and readers. If they can get them by finding a lost child - fab. If they can get them by playing on people's fears and demanding unworkable laws - lovely. If they can get them by finding out secrets or destrorying lives - great. It's all one to them.

They weren't listening to Milly Dowler's phone or Jessica Chapman's phone to find them. They were listening to get 'dirt' - on the kids or on their parents and friends.

This is a sickening though not surprising development. I will however be bloody surprised if Rebekah Brooks nee Wade resigns. She never has before. There's a good chance that Ryan Giggs has more moral fibre than she does so don't hold your breath.

I'm so pleased to read about the boycotts and the advertisers pulling their ads. Anyone know if sainsbo's advertise with NI papers. They are my most regular shop.

Prying into anothers phone is bad enough, but
To breach the privacy of someone who is missing, maybe abducted, with that the knowledge that a shattered family wait for the tiniest shred of news to make a quick buck is beyond belief and pure evil.
The person who hacked/deleted messages has to be mentally ill.

I feel that all the individuals who had responsibility for journalistic content based on phone hacking, from Rebekah Brooks downwards, should be proscribed from working in journalism now and in the future. I don't care if they have left NI, they have shown that they do not possess the ethics to be trusted as journalists.

Is there a journalists equivalent on the GMC?

I feel that all the individuals who had responsibility for journalistic content based on phone hacking, from Rebekah Brooks downwards, should be proscribed from working in journalism now and in the future. I don't care if they have left NI, they have shown that they do not possess the ethics to be trusted as journalists.

Is there a journalists equivalent on the GMC?

I feel that all the individuals who had responsibility for journalistic content based on phone hacking, from Rebekah Brooks downwards, should be proscribed from working in journalism now and in the future. I don't care if they have left NI, they have shown that they do not possess the ethics to be trusted as journalists.

Is there a journalists equivalent on the GMC?

Ooooh - I have no idea how that happened. Sorry.

To make it clear, I do not condone phone hacking. I condemn it.

I just think this might be an exceptional case. I agree the journalists should have pointed out their thinking (which they claim as their reasoning in the article cited on page 1) to the police, who are less likely to have encountered the full mobile problem in their working lives.

I hope the police would have already thought along those lines, though.

AFAICS there is no reason to lose any information in a mobile text message, provided you write down the text of the text and the details of the text on a piece of paper or into a computer before you delete it.

Just heard a bloke interviewed on 5 Live (who, admittedly, has written a book about Murdoch so assume isn't a fan) saying that no-one he knows/has had contact with at News Corporation believes Rebekah Brooks wouldn't have known about this. And when no-one believes you about it any more, that's hard to recover from. She'll be kept in place to take the flak

I don't subscribe to Sky but four of the guys I work with do and they have cancelled their subscription. All of them have daughters.

NOTW's actions are beyond words.

Now Holly Wells. How far will they sink?

PS My friend Chloe's mobile Voice Mail is always full. She never checks it and never empties it. I can't leave her a message. But I can text her.

One day a murderer/rapist will walk free from court because 'press intrusion' would have denied them a fair trial.

It will happen and could be your child.

Makes me shudder.

Mumsnet just got a mention on BBC News 24 about removing Sky advertising.

I'm so pleased to read about the boycotts and the advertisers pulling their ads.

Yes - well done Ford - now there's a novel headline "Big Company Does the Right Thing". Hope many more companies follow suit.

And I hope that whoever it is who usually reads NoW boycotts it too.

Rebekah has known all from the get go.

AAh got it now! Sorry. I just never use voicemail. Was her mobile with her then? It must have been.

LOL @ midnightservant

If NOTW were instrumental in helping catch Levi Bellfield they'd be trumpeting it from the rooftops.

Why are you defending them?

SugarPasteFrog

exactly

I have just seen a very unimpressive spokesman for NOTW on Ch4 News - he just couldn't see the difficulty/conflict of interest in Rebekah Wade deciding to lead an investigation now into the paper's activities, when she was in a (potentially) relevant position (which certainly should be covered by said investigation) at the relevant times. He repeated himself nearly as many times as a Miliband. Very poor show, and completely uninspiring and excessively complacent and condescending.

Beeb also reporting that Clarence Mitchell (McCann's spokesman) is seeing detectives icw suspicious phone activity.