The guy - Gary - who lost his leg in bombing - has served 3 yrs for rape

[ThomCat]

Can't find a nrews report but there must be one. It was the topic of discussion on LBC this morning.

It was a few years ago. He was part of a gang that kidnapped 2 girls and took part in raping these girls, at knifepoint, 45 times I think it was. He was given 7 years and served 3, that info is correcxt.

He's looking at £50,000 compensation and trying to relese a record to raise more money.

Personally I think he should give the money to the 2 girls who are scarred for life emotionally. Whay compensation did they receive for his crime on them?

Certainly changed my view on him.
Makes me feel sick.

I agree with you, TC

kama

I don't know. Yes, his crime was abhorrent, but he has served his time for it in the eyes of the law.

I think he should get the compo.

saw it in the "sun" (!) today. His defence now is that he "didnt ask to be sat opposite a bomber who blew my leg off"

mmm sure his victims didnt ask to be gang raped.

It's in the Sun of course.

I agree too, TC.

I'm with NDP. "Getting your leg blown off" is not the punishment for rape. He served his time, and this is a different issue.

Thank F for that NQC ! I'm not a lone voice.

Yep, and I agree with Olive - Kama.

If there were ever a perfect example of what goes around comes around.

If he gets that money he shouldn't keep it.

He committed a most disgusting, terrible crime.
Yes he "served his time" but 3 years, come on.... jesus. He should be allowed to serve his time and then live a normal life, but he should struggle and forever more work hard at repenting and feel the weight of that crime like a lead cloack every day of his life. He shouldn't be helped to build a better life with £50,000 and the people buying his record. Live your life Gary - but not with the help of cash from the state. Give it to your victims.

I thought it said he was wrongly accused of rape ?

In yesterdays Mail it says he was cleared on appeal.

I agree he has served his time for the crime he committed.

If he had served the full time in prison maybe he wouldn't have been caught up in the bombings. Maybe justice has been served - he is the one who has to live the rest of his life without his leg. If I were one of his victims I would be glad he'd been crippled. And I wouldn't want his money.

Nope, he did it.

He claimed the conviction had been quashed but it hasn't.

I know NDP and NQC are right really, but I can't find any sympathy for him. Three years is ridiculouly short a sentence for what he did.
I know the leg thing isn't related but I can't help hating him none the less.

He's not being given £50,000 because he raped someone, he's being given £50,000 because he lost his leg.

If he can't have his money because of the rape case, what does that imply? Someone who mugged someone when he was 18 (convicted, served time), and loses a leg at 50, does he get his money? Where do we draw the line?

But, TC, the length of his sentence was the fault of the justice system, he didn't sentence himself !

QE, the 'dirty money' comment is a very good point.

Oh, I'm not saying this makes him a nice person. I'm not saying I'd have a drink with him, or buy his record. I'm just saying the rape conviction shouldn't affect his case for compensation.

If it was your daughter, or your mother, or a friend that had been raped, 45 times by a group of men that inc this Gary, would you still think he had served his time (3 years) and that he deserved to be compensated for losing a leg - £50,000 worth of state money????

In a nutshell spidermama. He is despicable and three years is a disgraceful sentence for anyone committing that sort of crime. But he is still entitled to the appropriate compensation for being caught up in 7/7 - with one leg, TC, and a deserved criminal record, he's going to find it rather harder than most to find a job. I certainly wouldn't buy the pig's record though...shudder...

i'm saying he shouldn't keep the money.
I'm saying he should give it to his victims.

it just seems so unfair though doesn't it.
the girls who were kidnapped and raped get on with their lives... with who knows what kind of repurcussions and effects..

and he goes on to live his life having served a ridiculously short sentence and then gets handed £50,000

ok, i know he hasn't got the money yet, and i realise that losing your leg is also an horrific thing to go through... but still

QE - and I wouldn't want his dirty money either, good point.

I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer.

He found the rape conviction was still on his record when he was arrested for burglary three years ago. Nice guy.

I know that NCQ and NDP are right. The logical part of me knows that.

But there's a little voice in my head saying it's a shame he didn't get his penis blown off too.

TC - as emotive a subject as this is, yes I think he should be entitled to the money. Even if it were me or my dd, yes he is entitled. I would hope that even after something so awful and traumatic, I or dd could move on and not allow this man to make me bitter and twisted for the rest of our lives. Maybe that's easy for me to say; thankfully I have never been in such a situation.

I committed a crime when I was a teenager - if I won the Lottery next week would it be wrong for me to be happy and enjoy that money because I transgressed as a youngster?

Are you talking to me NomDePlume ????