The guy - Gary - who lost his leg in bombing - has served 3 yrs for rape

[ThomCat]

Can't find a nrews report but there must be one. It was the topic of discussion on LBC this morning.

It was a few years ago. He was part of a gang that kidnapped 2 girls and took part in raping these girls, at knifepoint, 45 times I think it was. He was given 7 years and served 3, that info is correcxt.

He's looking at £50,000 compensation and trying to relese a record to raise more money.

Personally I think he should give the money to the 2 girls who are scarred for life emotionally. Whay compensation did they receive for his crime on them?

Certainly changed my view on him.
Makes me feel sick.

marina, the tabloid take on the Lottery rapist is that he should bloody well pay for his own protection - I've seen a 5-figure amount quoted for the weekly cost (but in the tabloids so who knows. He does have 24-hour police cover though, allegedly).

spidermama - you have summed it up perfectly.

The length of time he served for the crime, is not his fault.

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The girls who were raped got £13500 in todays money. Don't know how they decide what type of crime results in the victim geting what, but someone somewhere puts a price on these things and I would like to know how it's done.

I knew someone who lost an eye and I'm pretty sure he didn't get anything like £50000.

He's not really though Thomcat - I'd never even heard of him until this thread. I've heard a lot more about the poor bus driver, and the boy who helped the badly burnt woman out of the train at Edgware Road, and the girl who lost her legs, and the Australian girl who spent time in a neck brace, and of course, the people who died and their families. I'd say the tabloids are just looking for a juicy, controversial angle on this appalling act of terrorism and - well, we're all chatting about Gary now, aren't we...

Janh, that is appalling (the five figures for the Lottery Rapist).

Hmm tricky one.

If he'd committed this crime in the last couple of years I may feel differently. But 20yrs is a long time, and despite what we may think about those sick people who carry out these sorts of crimes, people DO change. (yes I know he was arrested for burglary 3yrs ago - but it doesn't say he was charged with it).

Having read the article (if the Sun can be trusted to report it properly) then multiple rape victims get £13,500 - no it's not enough - but presumably his victims have recieved this money?? Or could claim this money???

Oh I don't know....in essence I agree with NDP and NQC

Actually he could have faced up to this before becoming the "public face" - I was once responsible for inflicting pain on innocent people and now I want to help other victims - rather than gimme the money.

there is a delicious irony in what has happened to him. End of.

My gut instinct is that yes he gets the money for his injury - everyone else does and as it stands he has served his time for whatever crime he was convicted of, I do wonder what the actual charges were relating to the rape and why he got early release as this would explain a lot perhaps.
It was 20 yrs ago, so they reckon and if he was burglarising 3 yrs ago then he is clearly a criminal.
It does appall that the compensation for rape and other crimes is so low, in comparison.
But if it was someone else who had lost a leg like that £50k would be an insult.
Actually I cannot say one way or the other how I feel. Part of me is going with karma but then why did so many other people get hurt on that day?
The other part of me thinks he has served his time (not his choice/fault how long he served after all) and he has suffered a hideous life changing injury and should be entitled without question to the same compensation as anyone else on that day.

But all the evidence suggests that on top of being a rapist he is as thick and greedy as all get out Janh , so the chances of him doing that are pretty slim.
Moo made a good point - I wonder how many of us, especially the liberals, wish the bastard had had his penis blown off, deep down...

Oh, it's not quite so bad, Marina - only £10K a month, not a week

(Actually as it's a tabloid story it's probably somewhat less than that and they bumped it up to make 5 figures. But it's still taxpayers' money.)

Yes, I did love moo's penis thought.

karma doesn't mean that everyone who got hurt had done something bad.

I'm not sure we can say that 2 (completely different) crimes - only one of which he was actually charged with and found guilty of AFAWK - in 17 odd years makes some "clearly a criminal" TBH.

Marina - oh see, in the reports I've read, interviews I've seen / heard et he has been the face of the bombing victims. And as such the fact he's been fighting for the victims and plugging his record on LBC etc tryign to get more money to help rebuild his life..... well sorry, it makes my blood run cold. He was part of a gang that raped 2 women 45 times .
Was he thinking about his victims when he held up that sign as seen in the link at beginning of this thread. He says he's not a bad person. Oh really, I don't see it that way. He's alledged to have said :

?Of course I feel for the girls who were attacked all those years ago.
I would have loved to sit them down and see how they are doing.

HOW DO YOU THINK THEY ARE DOING, YOU TWAT.

?I feel so badly for what those girls went through ? and what I have gone through. How much more can a person take??

DUNNO GARY - YOU WERE PART OF THE 45 TIMES, HOW MUCH MORE ID YOU THINK TRHEY COULD TAKE?????

Notice he's quoted as saying "the girls who were attacked" - like, nothing to do with me, mate.

He has been part of the face of the campaign - repeatedly interviewed on BBC breakfast news etc - is what he is doing now all about him? Could what he is doing campaigning on behalf of all the victims be construed as a good thing? Why do we assume all his motives are devious?

I've managed to avoid him until now, clearly . What he is doing sounds odious

I am not sure I know how I feel about this

if it was 2 decades ago wouldn't he have been very young? is it possible he's worked hard to turn his life around, that he's become a differnent person?

an appalling crime yes but does that make us turn our backs on people forever?

are we not allowed to sympathise with people caught up in terrorist atrocities and mutilated because of past crimes .. what if he'd been banged up for GBH, would we feel the same?

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His arrest for buglary wasn't that long ago though was it? Doesn't sound like he was trying to turn his life around and make amends too hard to me.

So sorry to read that Giddy

HRH are you serious?! Who cares if it was 20 yrs ago - he has probably scarred those women for the rest of their lives! They were gang raped 45 times! C'mon!! Course he's a criminal! 20 yrs ago makes no difference - this was gang rape, not nicking a pack of sweets from Woolies!