Daily Mail fail

[Gooseberrybushes]

Have just done the usual check around the papers and wanted mners to respond to a query if you can.

Re Daily Mail: the most important story of the day is not the lead, unsurprisingly, nor anywhere near it. It seems an average day for the Mail. There is the usual celebrity bilge down the right column.

So I was wondering, in terms of news choices and news coverage, what kind of thing is being objected to and on what grounds.

For eg: there's a story about school heads being paid over 100,000 a year. If you really hate the Mail, can you explain why in terms of specific stories.

Thanks. I'm neutral, I read all the papers (well not cover to cover but I get across them all online to get a rounded view.

In case this counts: my chosen paper would be the Telegraph, favoured media the BBC and out of the Guardian and the Indie, I'd take the Indie.

I wonder if anyone will respond!

Okedokee: interesting insight.

The BBC can't go beyond that.

A nod equals responsible journalism in DM land? Really? It would explain a lot.

What, the BBC can't go beyond the facts? Respectable is right.

Perhaps papers should only ever report what they are told on the record. Perhaps they should be pr mouthpieces. Maybe some people would like that.

i wouldn't.

Things are much looser nowadays, thanks to tinterweb. They used to be so strict about "a man is being questioned" etc etc.

I mean SWC - I agree - we don't need any more press restrictions than we have. These injunctions demonstrate that.

I actually asked if a nod equals responsible journalism in DM land, hence the question mark. Stop twisting my words and if you consider reporting abusive posts as cowardly then that is indeed your prerogative.

Ok - "a nod equals responsible journalism?"

Shows what you know.

You started a fight - you didn't like the response. Didn't I ask you to grow up earlier?

Why so aggressive, GB?

Er - somebody accused me of lying. Would you like it?

No, I wouldn't - but I think you may have made your point, more than once.

In the 80s when I was a student everyone hated The Sun because it was the most powerful paper in the country and the best-selling one.

Now they hate the Mail for exactly the same reasons.

It also, thanks to the internet, has a huge presence in the US. Thanks to this web presence, thousands of mnetters, who would previously have been embarrassed to buy it, now spend large chunks of their day reading it and then posting outraged links on here

I don't read the Guardian, smallwhitecat, if you're referring to me. GB, more than one poster has accused you of lying, but you've been especially vicious towards LadyMary.

read the first OP, then jumped to the last page.
I am a teacher (oooh, get me and my pinko liberal tendencies, LMFAO!) and think the DM is homophobic, racist, and shit-stirring crud of the worst kind and read and taken seriously by fuckwits the land across.

It's obsessed with weight and image - and read by a frighteningly large number of people who surrended their critical faculties as soon as they made it their daily read of choice.

Just saying... (And I would insert a wink, but it's a Royal wink, thus shit as well, and I'll not dirty my post with it)

I'm a 'Guardianista' reader. Did you guess, smallwhitecat? LOL. Jesus. I love threads like this.

Head teachers are welcome to earn over 100k, if you ask me.

In a big secondary school, their responsibility and accountability is HUGE. Being responsible for the hiring and firing of over 100 staff, the well being of students, the teaching and learning, the hours they have to put in, etc etc.

A reasonable salary.

Oh - is this thread not about this?

Lady Mary has continued to jib and swipe. But that's ok with you?

I suspect SWC may be onto something.

smallwhitecat - the reason people get 'aggressive and rude' is because often the DM attacks their very morality and the way they live their life and encourages others to get all sanctimonious and judgey without all the facts too - at its worst it discourages people to mix and entrenches society in a way that is completely divisive.

When you read things in other papers that you disagree with politically - they are only at odds with your pov and not you in general.

GOd no, I love em. Fighting generalisations and fuckwittage in the classroom, spoken from the mouths of babes is grist to my mill. Wonder where some kids get their opinions from. Really, bring it on!! I will take my fairy wand of self righteousness and bash all the bigoted homophobic muslim-bashers that read the DM right on their little, blond highlighted heads. And take their Boden catalogues from their white tipped, podgy (but I'm trying really hard on the no carb diet from FeMail...) little hands whilst I'm at it.

Come on - you can do better than that...