Daily Mail fail

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Have just done the usual check around the papers and wanted mners to respond to a query if you can.

Re Daily Mail: the most important story of the day is not the lead, unsurprisingly, nor anywhere near it. It seems an average day for the Mail. There is the usual celebrity bilge down the right column.

So I was wondering, in terms of news choices and news coverage, what kind of thing is being objected to and on what grounds.

For eg: there's a story about school heads being paid over 100,000 a year. If you really hate the Mail, can you explain why in terms of specific stories.

Thanks. I'm neutral, I read all the papers (well not cover to cover but I get across them all online to get a rounded view.

In case this counts: my chosen paper would be the Telegraph, favoured media the BBC and out of the Guardian and the Indie, I'd take the Indie.

I wonder if anyone will respond!

Can't give specific examples as I don't go near it (although I do have a bit of a nose when we visit the ILs who are avid DMers) but generally its a bit right wing and misogynisitic. Plus it was pro-Nazi in the 1930's...

(Must confess to not reading any papers any more, I abandoned the Guardian in favour of the Independent but I found that waaaaay to depressing and now the closest I get to the news is listening to radio four in the morning.)

what's the most important story of the day?

Syria

or is it? maybe it's not ..I'm just digging here for opinion

I dislike the DM's obsession with female celebrities appearance and weight.

I must admit I never even looked at the Daily Mail until I read all the vitriol about it on Mumsnet - now I do tend to spend 10 minutes or so checking it out online every day .

But I mean newswise. The actual stories they choose and how they cover them.

Is it just the celebrity news and the editorial that makes people so angry?

"Is it just the celebrity news and the editorial that makes people so angry?"

No, of course not. It's the hatred, as expressed through the choice of stories, choice of headlines, choice of wording, etc. Hatred of:

• women
• the poor
• foreigners (especially asylum-seekers)
• the state and anything it does
• the young

etc etc

The Daily Mail is the best paper in the land. It is the people's paper which is precisely why the progressives don't like it. Stories about head teachers earning over £100,000, BBC executives earning salaries of £1 million etc., council bosses and bin police earning large salaries are exactly what the people want to know about. They like to know how the progressives spend their tax money, which the progressives like to keep quiet. If New Labour HQ don't like the Daily Mail and millions of the public do, then you know that the Mail is on the right track.

No way is it the people's paper. It is semi-fascist bilge - stoking a politics of resentment whenever it can. It hates anyone on benefits, women, refugees, foreigners, left-wingers, teachers, students, trade union leaders, striking workers, public sector employees,, the EU etc etc. In fact, at some point or another it hates everyone, just not all at the same time. Its groundless stories hope to fan the flames of our hatred for each other. It is called 'divide and rule'. It prints lies and scare stories constantly. And it is obsessed with the minutiae of slebs' bodies in a really tedious stupid way.

What makes me angry about the Daily Mail is the twist it puts on even the most innocuous story. If they can find a way to put the blame on immigrants, benefit-claimants, asylum seekers, muslims, single parents etc. then they do, and I find that irresponsible. They take an extreme example of something and extrapolate it to be 'the norm'. In addition, I do not like the way they dumb down scientific discoveries to a black/white good/bad story. They patronise their readers, playing on their fears and propping up their prejudices. There may be some genuinely good material in the middle of it all but, in my opinion, the DM cries wolf too often to be credible.

Brilliantly put telsa.

agree with all except Claig...

I find it distasteful that when they are reporting a story about a death/murder etc they always put in how much the victims house/car/salary is.

Because that really matters when someone has lost a child/partner/parent

I disike it for the very reason that Claig likes it. It feeds on people's pejudices. If you believed everything you read you would emigrate tomorrow!
The embroider innocent stories and give one side.

Sorry -reasons not reason.

I am being really careless -prejudices and they.

I am always surprised that the Daily Express escapes this vitriol as very similar to the Mail. Why is that?

Not many people buy the Express-lots buy the Mail!

I see exoticfruits. Mail and Express do seem like clone papers to me which is why I asked.

The headline story about shaming head teachers is a prime example of the disgusting, hypocritical, attitude this paper employs to sell as much crap as it can to the downtrodden lower middle classes.

The Sun is the 'people's paper'.

I do quite enjoy the mindless celeb gossip that you find in the DM - but yes, my objection is the hatred, the shit-stirring - all done with a faux-innocent "but I'm only saying.." tone.

Re the specific story over the school heads; comparatively few would be paid over £100K. You're talking older Heads of very large secondaries there - people who are managing budgets of many millions and staff of well over 100. An equivalent level of responsibility in the private sector would command a much higher salary. But yet the Mail won't say any of that - it's deliberate withholding of information - and for what purpose? How does it help if the public are left thinking these people are over-paid? Shit-stirring of the worst kind.

You can include the Metro in that group too - although at least it's free hatred; and a bit more subtle.